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re: Why has nobody refuted this account?

Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:41 am to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:41 am to
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This is a really dumb topic

I personally can not see where Miller did anything wrong but if I make the statement that he intentionally delivered the weapon so Davis could shoot someone, you can't refute that either.

It goes both ways.
It's the responsibility of society to prove an individual guilty of a crime, not the individual's responsibility to prove that he didn't commit a crime!
There's an abundance of evidence involving the crime, so if there are further charges to come, I suspect we'll see them, but.......
until then, only fools, or media hacks will be out in public sky-screaming for punishment before it's deemed appropriate.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36017 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:43 am to
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in other words, Brandon knew the gun was there, because if he didn't, his attorney would have said so


He did... according to the New York Times.


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Miller did so — his lawyers claim he was already on his way to pick up Miles and Davis, did not see Miles’s message, and did not know the gun was in the car, though the timeline is obviously very much in question — and, two minutes after Miller arrived, Davis began shooting into Harris’s vehicle, killing her. Miller’s windshield was shattered in the crossfire as he ducked down in the driver’s seat.
This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 9:44 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53869 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:44 am to
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until then, only fools, or media hacks will be out in public sky-screaming for punishment before it's deemed appropriate.

Time has sufficiently proven that there are plenty of those and plenty of people to push them, your own lot is heavily included.
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
3439 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:45 am to
It is hard to refute facts
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:45 am to
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Out of curiosity, what happens if after the season, Miller is found guilty of these allegations?

Idiots hoping for that will be disappointed.
This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 10:56 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11165 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:46 am to
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Get over the victim mentality and stop acting like your program is beyond reproach or immune from the bullshite so many of your own fans love to sling.

Do you support suspending Brandon Miller?

If so for what?

Not one person in this thread has given a specific reason for taking action against the guy.

You’re all just pounding on the table to support a conclusion you’ve already made because you can’t pound on any facts.

If evidence is presented that he criminally facilitated this horrible event I hope he’s charged. That evidence doesn’t exist right now

If evidence emerges that he violated team rules I hope he’s suspended. That evidence doesn’t exist currently.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35899 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:47 am to
I printed what Miller's attorney actually said, not what someone in New York City wrote
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36017 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:49 am to
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I printed what Miller's attorney actually said, not what someone in New York City wrote


So you don't believe the new york times?
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:50 am to
Miller did plenty to have "violated team rules." That can mean not turning a light out in the video room if need me. That was a bad look that looks even worse now. When all this went down had Oats and Alabama simply sat Miller for a couple of games under the guise of "violation of team rules" --two games Alabama would have won easily, when the report was released on Feb 24, the dots would have been connected as to why Miller sat. There would have been some grumbling,but this probably would have long blown over.

But Alabama didn't and that decision backfired.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:51 am to
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Time has sufficiently proven that there are plenty of those and plenty of people to push them, your own lot is heavily included.
Who, the hell, is my "lot"?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35899 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:52 am to
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So you don't believe the new york times?




almost never
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9416 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:52 am to
4 players on your team were at the scene of the murder. That's not just a coincidence.

This was just the Alabama BBall team initiation. The shooter had to catch a body before he could joim the team. Actual thugs.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:53 am to
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Miller did plenty to have "violated team rules." That can mean not turning a light out in the video room if need me. That was a bad look that looks even worse now. When all this went down had Oats and Alabama simply sat Miller for a couple of games under the guise of "violation of team rules" --two games Alabama would have won easily, when the report was released on Feb 24, the dots would have been connected as to why Miller sat. There would have been some grumbling,but this probably would have long blown over.

But Alabama didn't and that decision backfired.

This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 9:56 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:55 am to
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Miller did plenty to have "violated team rules."
Expound, please...and the "turning out the light in the video room" excuse ain't gonna work for game suspensions!
I'm waiting.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24347 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:56 am to
Here is a very rational take

- This is an on-going investigation. Proven innocent until otherwise.
- SECr has no objectivity (like usual).
- Not enough evidence to prove intent or that the transfer of firearm (to it's owner) was for an unlawful purpose.
- University of Alabama hasn't handled the press in the most graceful way.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:57 am to
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quote:
So you don't believe the new york times?




almost never
So ALL these people quoting NYT articles about the incident are FULL OF shite then...I agree!
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35899 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 9:59 am to
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coachcrisp
quote:

coachcrisp





you forgot to call me a mother fricker
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 10:01 am to
You people are hopeless. Yes,lets re-name the Wooden Award the "Miller Award" for young Brandon bringing a gun to a buddy that in turn was used in a murder.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35899 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 10:02 am to
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4 players on your team were at the scene of the murder.




probably 6 or 8 of them

doesn't the number keep growing by the week?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11165 posts
Posted on 3/16/23 at 10:09 am to
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Miller did plenty to have "violated team rules.

What specific team rule did he violate?
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