re: Why do college football/basketball players feel they are so deserving to be paid?

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They are established as professionals.

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And they get fired all the time for underperforming and
schools are still on the hook for buyouts.Gee,how many
jobs in the real world do you get fired for underperforming and still get paid?

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Always talks about coaches boosing or unethical shite.

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Not sure what you're getting at here but I would hold a 40+ year old adult more accountable than a college student.

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Clearly not as much as he hates America and the hard working citizen athletes getting exploited to pay Gene Chiziks buyout

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I don't think you understand what "exploiting" means. They are getting a free education. Most of whom would not get the education if not for athletic scholarships. Gene is a paid professional. I guess you think the entry level grunts should make what the CEO makes, too.

"any adult should not be able to profit off of their own likeness"


Because they signed away the right WILLINGLY in exchange for all the benefits of a student athlete.

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I don't think you understand what "exploiting" means. They are getting a free education. Most of whom would not get the education if not for athletic scholarships. Gene is a paid professional. I guess you think the entry level grunts should make what the CEO makes, too.

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You are correct.

I was going to put the whole "CEO" thing, but I hate that when I see it. Mostly probably because I think potato head. Anyways though, they are the CEO. It comes down to them. Again most of that money is from big donors and foundations. The buyouts are ridiculous. Fk yes they are. But... this is negotiated as part of the job. They earned that from many years of experience. If you dont like that, talk to the AD and Board.

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Also, if you use that argument, why can't military members smoke weed?

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I don't care if they do some weed while not on duty. I just don't understand the massive uproar about college athletes smoking weed. No cares if regular students on scholarship are getting high.

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Well for one, the coach has usually proved himself worthy of a big contract. Of course with each new year, it goes up.
These kids havent done shite. Most of them likely wouldnt even get

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Not sure what you are arguing because a football player who wins a heisman FR + SO year still wouldn't be able to get a big contract despite proving himself "worthy" as consecutive best player in the game


Even if you estimate $100,000 expenses per scholarship kid, that is only $8.5mil on scholarship + expenses for the entire AU football team while Gus Malzahn alone makes $7mil/year


There is no universe that it makes sense that $ is being properly spent where a 10W coach makes as much as the cost of the entire football team's "compensation"

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They get huge exposure. Lets talk about how much it costs regular companies to advertise. These kids are all over. I dont know Bob that works in Marketing for Budlight, but Ill know my 3rd string QB and where he is from.

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Exposure that they are not allowed to use to their financial advantage which effectively means nothing

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Most of the ones demanding money would spend it on ridiculous shite as well

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What does this have to do with whether they should be compensated? This is completely irrelevant to the conversation

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If they get money, they should still keep the rules about No representation.

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So say an 18 YO kid gets $100k+ / year, are you suggesting he shouldn't be allowed to get qualified financial advisors or publicity professionals to help maximize his earnings?

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Plus it would keep those influencers out of the picture (like how it is supposed to be)

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The better course of action would be to require any agent/advisor to register and be subject to fiduciary duty law

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Also, if these kids want this, they should implement a zero tolerance policy and if they frick up once, they are done.

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As always, this is the responsibility of the coach/school to handle players.

A couple of points.

If basketball and football players were given the option to go pro out pf HS like baseball players I wouldn't have a problem with the system but they are forced to enter an education system that truly has nothing to do with their intended profession. While you are in no way legally mandated to go to college it is realistically speaking your only option if you want to play those pro sports.

Secondly a disporptiante number of football and basketball players are not academically prepared for college and therefore are unlikely to reap the actual payoff. It is basically like winning the lottery and then finding out it is paid out in confederate money. I know people say that the pay is the tuition, room and board etc., but the pay is suppose to be the value of a degree earned.

On a side note, a lot of people talk about how football programs contribute/pay for academics. That is partly true but it is mostly ancillary. For instance a few years back Bama's athletic department gave a gift of around 10 million to the academic side of the house, the most it had ever given. The operating budget for UA that year was in excess of 700 million dollars, a drop in the bucket. However success in major athletics generally speaking increases application which increases tuition revenue. Not to mention all the business outside of campus that major athletics tend to support tangentially.

So do you agree athletes in sports that lose money should have to pay to play ? If we pay athletes then we will only have a few college sports and then the rest would be shut down . I could care less either way .

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They are welcome to get a real job.

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Not exactly. The jobs that they are allowed to get while under scholarship are extremely limited.

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So do you agree athletes in sports that lose money should have to pay to play ?

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They would have to by law

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pay athletes then we will only have a few college sports and then the rest would be shut down .

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All athletes currently get paid the COA stipend and I don't recall any school dropping non revenue sports when it's was implemented.

Once again,revenues are pouring into P5 schools from CFB TV and playoffs not to mention college basketball revenue and schools are spending millions on coaches salaries,administrative asst,jumbotrons,buyouts,facilities etc.