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re: Why didn't any of the major programs steal Lane Kiffin from Ole Miss?

Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:42 pm to
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All y’all talking about his “immaturity.”
You replied to me, although I didn't make that critique of Kiffin, so I'll respond.

The recruits love it. He's able form a connection with recruits just by them following Kiffin on Twitter. The recruits love the trolling. They understand that social media is unforgiving and at times you will say or post something you'll regret later on.

They understand that Kiffin's popcorn comment backfired and compare it to a time where they said they made some outrageous claim like "I'm gonna throw for 600 on that soft arse secondary Friday night" only to get embarrassed. They like the swagger.

It is the older Gen Xers and Boomers who take issue with it. The younger generation accepts it for what it is.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 12:45 pm
Posted by SquaringCircles
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:43 pm to
Yea I just replied to you since yours was the last post. I know you weren’t saying that. I was speaking to the room. I agree.
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
10745 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:02 pm to
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This is a bullshite cop out excuse. Kelly has no ties what so ever to the SEC footprint and LSU just fired a guy who was the epitome of a "cultural fit".


Counterpoint: LSU's last two hires were mediocre to average coaches who were perfect cultural fits and they won nattys. We have no idea what Kelly's tenure will look like. I used to think cultural fit was overrated but Mullen, Kiffin, and Harsin have changed my mind. Mullen was a great cultural fit at MSU but not a good fit at Florida. Kiffin is a great cultural fit for Ole Miss, and Harsin seems like a bad one for Auburn.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:04 pm to
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It is the older Gen Xers and Boomers who take issue with it.


I'm older, and it doesn't bother me.

I also understand that with a program like Ole Miss, he feels that he has to generate some buzz. I don't think he did so much of that at USC, and I don't think he would at Alabama.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16556 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:14 pm to
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 Ole Miss, he feels that he has to generate some buzz.


He generates buzz by existing. He has fun and takes things lightly. He treats it as a game. It's the Dabo Swinney approach vs the Saban approach. Seems genuine and OM enjoys it because we tend not to take the games too seriously due to long streaks of poor on field performances. He can thrive and will get cut slack when things don't always go our way.

As another poster mentioned the fans @ Bama, LSU, etc.. would be frothing and stabbing each other with some of Lane's risks
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:22 pm to
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It's the Dabo Swinney approach vs the Saban approach.


Don't ever make the mistake of thinking Saban doesn't have fun with his players. The video clips of him celebrating with them in the locker room...like last Saturday...are pretty legendary with Alabama fans, as are the videos of getting the players out on the lake. I will say that I think he's gotten better at that over the years. But he's a great example of how you can take your business very seriously, work really hard, and still have a lot of fun.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26519 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:23 pm to
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Like this actually means something or is even provable. They were good for the year they were in.


The amount of NFL talent on that roster (2001 Miami) is unbelievable. There's an objective measure for you.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:23 pm to
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As another poster mentioned the fans @ Bama, LSU, etc.. would be frothing and stabbing each other with some of Lane's risks



I think he feels like he has to do more of that at Ole Miss.

And trust me...Bama fans do plenty of frothing and stabbing when Saban takes 3 time-outs into the locker room at halftime.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16556 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:35 pm to
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think he feels like he has to do more of that at Ole Miss.


He's just showing he's going to buck old stagnant methodology and do things his way. With the more talent he brings in the more successful he will be at it.
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:41 pm to
On the day of Brian Kelly's introductory press conference, the longest thread on the first page is about Lane Kiffin

Don't ever change SECr
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:47 pm to
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think he feels like he has to do more of that at Ole Miss.


He's just showing he's going to buck old stagnant methodology and do things his way. With the more talent he brings in the more successful he will be at it.


It will be a cold day in hell before Lane Kiffin runs out the clock from his own 20 with 1:00 left in the half and three timeouts in his pocket.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9424 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:47 pm to
A few things. Miami is sitting on arguably the best youth football in the U.S. The players are there.

Miami has nice facilities that were upgraded a few years ago. But, the big issue with Miami is will they pay big money. Up until now they haven't. But, Miami has the money to pay. If Miami pays the money for a Kiffin or Cristobal and provides a high staff budget a lot of head coaches in the SEC will have harder jobs because they won't pull out of South Florida like they have been doing.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9424 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:50 pm to
Lane can be patient. Texas will open soon and Bama will open one day.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9424 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:51 pm to
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On the day of Brian Kelly's introductory press conference, the longest thread on the first page is about Lane Kiffin

Don't ever change SECr


You know why that is
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:53 pm to
I'd love him at UF but I just don't think he'd stay long enough before going back to the NFL.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9424 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:58 pm to
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I'd love him at UF but I just don't think he'd stay long enough before going back to the NFL.


If Kiffin wanted to go back to the NFL I think he would've went back long ago. Kiffin likely has more or just as many relationships in the NFL as he does in college football.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 1:59 pm
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:08 pm to
you're out of your mind if you think Saban is going to coach till he dies.
Posted by hollywood23
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
307 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:16 pm to
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A few things. Miami is sitting on arguably the best youth football in the U.S. The players are there.

Miami has nice facilities that were upgraded a few years ago. But, the big issue with Miami is will they pay big money. Up until now they haven't. But, Miami has the money to pay. If Miami pays the money for a Kiffin or Cristobal and provides a high staff budget a lot of head coaches in the SEC will have harder jobs because they won't pull out of South Florida like they have been doing.

All of this is true. I like having Kiffin in the conference, even if it means Ole Miss is a thorn in our side. I think Kiffin is a dang good football coach. If Miami hires a competent AD like Jurich, they will make some bold moves in football.
I visited Louisville pre-Jurich, and the facilities were just OK. After Jurich arrived, the facilities exploded. They are excellent now. If an AD like Jurich takes the reigns and invests in facilities like he did at Louisville, that could be a big draw for Kiffin. Not saying he would leave, but under the right circumstances, any SEC coach would. (Except Saban, Smart, or Pittman, of course.)
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9424 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:20 pm to
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All of this is true. I like having Kiffin in the conference, even if it means Ole Miss is a thorn in our side. I think Kiffin is a dang good football coach. If Miami hires a competent AD like Jurich, they will make some bold moves in football.
I visited Louisville pre-Jurich, and the facilities were just OK. After Jurich arrived, the facilities exploded. They are excellent now. If an AD like Jurich takes the reigns and invests in facilities like he did at Louisville, that could be a big draw for Kiffin. Not saying he would leave, but under the right circumstances, any SEC coach would. (Except Saban, Smart, or Pittman, of course.)


I agree completely with you. If Jurich is named the AD at Miami (or FSU b/c they have an AD opening) look out!
Posted by GoldenReb
Member since Sep 2013
731 posts
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:27 pm to
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It is the older Gen Xers and Boomers who take issue with it. The younger generation accepts it for what it is.


Kiffin is the same age as me, a late GenXer. Lane Kiffin to me is the embodiment of GenX.
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