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re: Who would win the SEC if you took all the best teams in the last 15 years

Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
28631 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:21 pm to
2010 Arkansas could have.

Ryan Mallet.

A healthy Knile Davis.

A healthy Greg Childs.

Joe Adams

Tramain Thomas

Cobi Hamilton

Chris Smith

Dennis Johnson

Broderick Green

Ronnie Wingo

D.J Williams

Jarius Wright

Chris Gragg

Jake Bequette

Zach Hocker

Jerry Franklin

Jericho Nelson



This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 9:40 pm
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
21450 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

LSU's 1958 title run ended with a win vs #12 Clemson.


Exactly, 1958 LSU isnt the best team of all time
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 9:24 pm
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
16622 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:24 pm to
The 1939 Texas A&M Aggies would beat the 2019 LSU Tigers
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
26886 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 10:36 pm to
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Exactly, 1958 LSU isnt the best team of all time


John Cohen and Auburn say they aren’t the best team of 1958.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21888 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 11:09 pm to
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Burrow was #2 in the SEC behind Tua in 2019.


How many games did Tagovailoa play in '19? Or, are you just begging for another asterisk to add to Ba*ma*'s collection?
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
5336 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 3:19 am to
2019 LSU
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
22978 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:52 am to
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Alabama’s 2020 SOS=9.72 SRS=30.26 obviously trumps LSU’s 2019 SOS=6.60, SRS=25.80. Wow, the Alabama schedule was almost 50% tougher.

It surprised me at first that Alabama was so far ahead in SOS & SRS, but it makes perfect sense when you realize that 2020 Alabama became the first team in history to beat 13 P5 teams, with no team coming within 2 TDs except Florida in SECC who tacked on a TD with ~2 min left and went for 2 to make it a 6 pt game. OTOH, LSU had 3 games within 1 score including 5 loss Texas and 4 loss AU @ home by 3 pts. 3-9 Vandy put up 38 on them. LSU played 3 non P5 teams, Alabama 0. Alabama became the only team in history to beat 11 SEC teams. And this was when the SEC was undisputedly the best conference in the country.

I had been surprised that Bill Connelly and other advanced metrics gurus considered Alabama the greatest of all time. But upon further review it seems obvious now. But frankly both offenses were a blast to watch. Smith, Jones, Waddle, Metchie, Najee Harris, Dickerson, Brian Robinson, et al. and Burrow, Chase, Jefferson , Helaire, et al.

Even the D wasn’t bad with Barmore, Mathis, Eboigbe, Christian Harris, Will Anderson, Pat Surtain, Jobe, Moore, Battle. All NFL starters at one time or another. Many still doing so. Maybe not quite Miami 2001 but not bad.

Crushed the playoff competition including a rested, undefeated, untied Ohio State team which they took to the woodshed. Put up 52 on them with Smith and Waddle not even playing most of the second half and Dickerson out the whole game. But OSU had D players out too.

No wonder Connelly says Alabama 2020 is the best. The numbers and schedule sure say so.


In empty away game stadiums. If you don't want to discount the record, you have to discount the scores on road games. You know some of those usually hostile environments would've changed things.

Disagreeing with that is saying that home field advantage doesn't exist in the SEC. If that's your stance, great.

And for SOS calculation, it's completely fricked that year because of the schedules teams played across the country.

It's an asterisk year.


This post was edited on 8/12/26 at 8:54 am
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
22978 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:55 am to
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Rating:

2019 - Burrow: 202.0
2020 - Jones: 203.1

Burrow was #2 in the SEC behind Tua in 2019.


Yeah we're all buying that Burrow wasn't as good as Tua or Mac Jones -
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5689 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 9:01 am to
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Exactly, 1958 LSU isnt the best team of all time

Putting "exactly" before your comment doesn't mean your point was made. The asterisk is not put there by LSU fans to denote 2019 was better than 2020 (i'll admit it is probably just limp dick roundabout to try and invalidate the 2019-2020 debate before it starts). Nobody says "well Lebron has an asterisk so you can't compare him and MJ as GOAT". An asterisk is used to denote something shouldn't count. So if 2020 gets the asterisk for whatever reason, '58 gets the asterisk for similar reason.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
19324 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 9:04 am to
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In empty away game stadiums. If you don't want to discount the record, you have to discount the scores on road games. You know some of those usually hostile environments would've changed things.



By your logic, Bama's home games were also more difficult because there wasn't the usual home field advantage.

Playing the "empty stadiums" card cuts both ways (i.e., away games are easier, but home games are more difficult), so it's a wash.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
8939 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 9:07 am to
The trolls are strong on this page!

Anyone who doesn't say 2019 LSU is smoking crack!
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
2177 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:26 pm to
The 2019 team lost 2 games, including one to 4 loss Auburn 48-45, Gave up more to AU than LSU.
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
2177 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:29 pm to
I guess you cut the game off early.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
29326 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:29 pm to
No team beats A&M at the end of 2012. Shame the beginning of the season loss to Florida in Manziel's first game cost him a shot at the ring.

2012 A&M versus 2019 LSU would be a barn burner with defense optional
This post was edited on 8/12/26 at 5:31 pm
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
2177 posts
Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:45 pm to
Alabama has always been a great road team. Hostile environments just cause them to focus more. What is their record in “scary” Baton Rouge? Something like 30-9. Florida Field? 8-2. Georgia’s Sanford Stadium? 15-9, 14-5 since 1951. etc. 3 of the toughest programs in the SEC.

No a hostile crowd doesn’t matter to Alabama.
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