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re: Which Big 6 coach had the worst first year loss?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:08 am to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:08 am to SidewalkTiger
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Billy Napier (6-7) - Vanderbilt (5-7), 2022
Nick Saban (7-6) - Louisiana Monroe (6-6), 2007
Kirby Smart (8-5) - Vanderbilt (6-7), 2016
Josh Heupel (7-6) - Florida (6-7), 2021
Brian Kelly (10-4) - Texas A&M (5-7), 2022
Did any of them almost cry on the sideline after falling down by 21 late in the 4th?
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Posted on 5/16/23 at 10:09 am to dcbl
I don’t know man. Billy is on thin ice.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:24 am to trackem
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Big 6 refers to the six teams - Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, Florida and Tennessee - that have won every SEC Championship in football since 1963. Last I looked, neither Texas nor Oklahoma has even played an SEC game yet.
Tre fricking Mason kept that trend alive. I didn’t know that.
I rewatched that games highlights and what a crazy back and forth game. So many big plays. Still a little pissed what that corner did to Henry Josey. That was fricked.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 11:26 am
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:26 am to RamboMizzou
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Still a little pissed what that corner did to Henry Josey. That was fricked.
Was that the tackle into the golf cart?
Posted on 5/16/23 at 11:27 am to SidewalkTiger
Vandy with mercy knee against thUGA
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:09 pm to dcbl
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Saban, and it’s not really even close
Dear God, this is just comic gold here. Saban took over a program that was coming off some of the most severe sanctions in history (people ....conveniently choose to forget this). Saban didn't have a full 85 roster until 2009 and there was no transfer portal. Bama had no players. At that time ULM was not far behind Bama in talent. Bama's starting LBer had an offer from Jax state and Alabama and that was it. The hell with ULM, how saban got 7 wins out of THAT team is more of a testament.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:32 pm to Tarpon08
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Kirby Smart was soooo fricking close to losing to Nicholls State as well. It was about to get fricking wild in Thibodaux, LA.
I was losing my shite in the 4th tht gane
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:35 pm to Leto II
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Was that the tackle into the golf cart?
Yeah. I forgot how far Josey was out of bounds.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:36 pm to TouchdownTony
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At that time ULM was not far behind Bama in talent.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:36 pm to TouchdownTony
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At that time ULM was not far behind Bama in talent
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Dear God, this is just comic gold here
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:41 pm to TouchdownTony
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Dear God, this is just comic gold here. Saban took over a program that was coming off some of the most severe sanctions in history (people ....conveniently choose to forget this). Saban didn't have a full 85 roster until 2009 and there was no transfer portal. Bama had no players. At that time ULM was not far behind Bama in talent. Bama's starting LBer had an offer from Jax state and Alabama and that was it. The hell with ULM, how saban got 7 wins out of THAT team is more of a testament.
What a load of revisionist history. And why?
Alabama certainly had its issues. That’s why the job was open in 2007. But it was two years removed from being 10-2. It was a decent roster. Certainly enough talent to have been better than 7-6. On paper.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:42 pm to Tigerlaff
Y’all really underestimate how dysfunctional the program and LOS personnel were when Kirby arrived. The 9 wins Richt amassed in 2015 were one of the greatest mirages I can remember; that team was arse and the program was in total disarray internally, from S&C to coaches to players checking out. What Kirby managed by 2017 (and with a freshman in Fromm at QB and Thomas at LT) is really remarkable in hindsight.
Trying to go back and rewatch games from 2013-2015 now is like looking through your old middle school pics. We didn’t want to realize it at the time but we were in such an awkward phase.
Trying to go back and rewatch games from 2013-2015 now is like looking through your old middle school pics. We didn’t want to realize it at the time but we were in such an awkward phase.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:50 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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But it was two years removed from being 10-2.
He's not wrong in that the 07 certainly wasn't as talented as would become the standard for Bama under Saban, but saying ULM was nipping at their heels as far as talent goes is just overkill on the hyperbole. JPW wasn't a great QB but he could manage the game ok. They had Javier Arenas and DJ Hall and Andre Smith, etc etc. They had pieces, they just lacked depth and experience and fell into the tank mentally after the LSU collapse.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:16 pm to TouchdownTony
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Which Big 6 coach had the worst first year loss?
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Saban, and it’s not really even close
Dear God, this is just comic gold here.
losing to a small state school is infinitely worse than losing to a founding SEC member
Saban has also had the best career of any on the list...
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:20 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Alabama certainly had its issues. That’s why the job was open in 2007. But it was two years removed from being 10-2. It was a decent roster. Certainly enough talent to have been better than 7-6. On paper.
2007 was about developing a culture where the previous culture was the total and complete opposite in terms of attention to detail, discipline, etc. And that isn't even a big dig at Shula, he just ran things like an NFL coach in terms of giving kids space to make their own decisions and all that.
Once we lost that LSU game and the big shiny thing was gone (SEC West, SEC Title) a bunch of dudes just gave up on following all the hard stuff. We lost that game at State that we never should have lost - just an abysmal performance. And then ULM was the next week and was rock bottom.
Alabama had about 4 different seasons inside of 1 that year. Started hot and clearly being bought in to all the stuff Saban sold, started unravelling after the OT loss to Georgia (horrid loss to FSU, near collapse vs Houston, near loss to horrid Ole Miss)...........then the most out of the blue win of the last 30 years in beating the shite out of a solid Tennessee team without a bunch of suspended players which gave a new jolt of life..........followed by a competitive loss to future national champ LSU, which then led to the final gasp of breath from that group.
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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was rock bottom.
Which was the point the program quit digging and started going the opposite direction. Honestly it was the beginning of the greatest run in football history. That’s a great thing.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:25 pm to cajunbama
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Which was the point the program quit digging and started going the opposite direction. Honestly it was the beginning of the greatest run in football history. That’s a great thing.
Yep - I mean we could have probably still hit the bottom in a 24-21 win vs ULM sandwiched between ugly losses to State and Auburn, but the ULM loss was about as clear a wake up call to everybody in the program of where we were at that point in time as could happen.
They even showed up at Auburn the next week and competed, just weren't good enough on offense. And everything after that Auburn loss for the next 15 years went pretty well.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 2:00 pm to SidewalkTiger
Brent Venables and losing 49-0 trumps all.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 2:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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2007 was
An amazing year for college football.
Signed,
Missouri.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 2:39 pm to SidewalkTiger
If Alabama had any brains amongst them, they would've canned that Saban guy immediately following the ULM loss.
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