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re: What's with laughing at UGA for hiring Mike White?
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:03 am to Vidic
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:03 am to Vidic
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Because it doesn’t make sense. Yea I know how bad UGA is. But going to the NIT every few years isn’t going to move the needle anywhere. I’d rather keep on hiring and firing and get an actual chance at being actually good
Eta the only person it makes sense for is the AD who wants to keep his job with an admin who doesn’t care about basketball. Mediocre is ok
We are horrible. Vandy football bad. If y'all were talking this way about Vandy getting a coach that could take them to very minor bowl game and every five years get them to one a little closer to NYD, but not Big 6, everyone would think you all were crazy to think it wasn't a good hire.
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:08 am to koreandawg
I guess when a program is as bad as Georgia's, mediocrity is a step up. That is what you will get with Mike White. Great guy, high integrity, average recruiter, average coach. Expect, 17-20 wins a year, tops and to make the dance every other year, only to lose in the first round.
Great hire for a program with no where to go but up!
Great hire for a program with no where to go but up!
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:23 am to koreandawg
This isn’t football. UGA could be a damn good basketball program, unlike Vandy. With UGA’s support of the basketball program I just don’t think he’s even going to get you near the tournament. But hey if you want to go from very bad to just bad have fun!
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:25 am to koreandawg
I don't think he's any better on paper than Crean was. Based on Crean's history there would be no reason to expect him to be so bad at Georgia. He was average to very good at Marquette and Indiana and built both into yearly NCAA Tournament programs from a place where they weren't.
Mike White took over a Top 10 program and slowly withered it down to a bubble program. It's just a very strange hire, and I don't think it is a slam dunk at all that White makes Georgia into a bubble type program. He might, but it's also completely in the realm of possibility that he can never get it going much like Crean couldn't.
I understand the feeling that he is a "stabilizer" type guy that Georgia needs, but so was Crean.
Mike White took over a Top 10 program and slowly withered it down to a bubble program. It's just a very strange hire, and I don't think it is a slam dunk at all that White makes Georgia into a bubble type program. He might, but it's also completely in the realm of possibility that he can never get it going much like Crean couldn't.
I understand the feeling that he is a "stabilizer" type guy that Georgia needs, but so was Crean.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 8:33 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:29 am to koreandawg
I know UF is happy to see him go, but at this point retaining a starter from one season to another and winning 7 games would be a huge upgrade. So yeah...beggars can't be choosers.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:32 am to koreandawg
Not sure why UGA didn't at least give it a bit of time to gauge the response of more promising candidates in stead of hiring White in 2 days. It's not like more prestigious programs were going to hire the guy tomorrow, and as noted UF was probably going to let the guy go at season's end.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:32 am to koreandawg
I honestly can't remember anything about UGA Bball since the human highlight film.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:32 am to SummerOfGeorge
Can Mike White take over a dumpster fire and build a program basically from scratch? Nothing about his coaching profile suggests he can. But everything about Crean's suggested he could, so maybe they're experimenting with the Costanza method of doing the opposite of whatever your instincts say you should do.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:41 am to Robot Santa
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Nothing about his coaching profile suggests he can
La Tech was bad to mediocre before he took over and he had consistently winning 25+ games.
Obviously a different scenario at UF
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:47 am to ChiGator
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Mike White started on third base at Florida. Program was already developed from everything Billy D created. He’s essentially taken the program back to first base now. Not sure why Georgia fans think he’s such an upgrade. Florida fans have wanted him gone since the Covid season.
Very good summation. He left Florida because his seat was scorching hot. Surprise Florida hasn't canned him yet.
He can go to Georgia, shite the bed for a few years, and then get fired from there. Hey, he gets a few more years of making way more than he should so he can further pad his investment accounts.
The UGA basketball job is a place you go to get fired.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:54 am to koreandawg
I get where you’re (OP) coming from as UGA has never invested in basketball so to speak. The thing is, at Florida, he did less with more. If you’re expecting similar results at UGA, it’s not likely to happen as he won’t have the brand, infrastructure or talent behind him that Billy left in place.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:01 am to Arkapigdiesel
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The UGA basketball job is a place you go to get fired.
The same could said of multiple schools that eventually got The right hire.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:02 am to koreandawg
Im confused why you are confused when basketball fans laugh at uga.
Can White get UGA back to Mark Fox levels? Maybe. Hell, i can give you probably.
But we fired mark fox and were happy to see him replaced. We are hoping for a return to "that glory". That's funny.
I sure as hell have laughed at SEC football hires for less.
Can White get UGA back to Mark Fox levels? Maybe. Hell, i can give you probably.
But we fired mark fox and were happy to see him replaced. We are hoping for a return to "that glory". That's funny.
I sure as hell have laughed at SEC football hires for less.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:02 am to El Chap0
but UGA does have the metro Atlanta area to recruit from. It's crazy how they are so consistently bad at basketball.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:03 am to RD Dawg
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The same could said of multiple schools that eventually got The right hire.
this guy won't be the one
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:06 am to koreandawg
Florida is also a much better basketball program than Georgia and White was considered to under perform.
If he can get similar results at Georgia it will be a good hire but he has way less to work with to do it.
If he can get similar results at Georgia it will be a good hire but he has way less to work with to do it.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:07 am to ChiGator
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Mike White started on third base at Florida. Program was already developed from everything Billy D created. He’s essentially taken the program back to first base now
Mike White at UF is to their basketball program what Les Miles was to LSU football.
He won a lot less than he should’ve given what he had to work with.
UGA fans just won a NC in football and don’t care so it’s not a big deal.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:08 am to BLG
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metro Atlanta area to recruit from
UGA is never going to out recruit basketball blue bloods for the blue blood talent in atlanta.
At best, we can hope to win one every 5 to 7 years. Forget building a roster on them. Crean was able to do that much.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:15 am to meansonny
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UGA is never going to out recruit basketball blue bloods for the blue blood talent in atlanta
Was Auburn a "blue blood" when Pearl started landing all that metro Atlanta talent when he got there?
Pretty sure all 5 of their starters from last year at one point were from metro Atlanta.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 11:25 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:31 am to Robot Santa
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Can Mike White take over a dumpster fire and build a program basically from scratch? Nothing about his coaching profile suggests he can. But everything about Crean's suggested he could, so maybe they're experimenting with the Costanza method of doing the opposite of whatever your instincts say you should do.
Given this, they should have hired Mike White and kept Crean as well.
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