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re: What is your honest opinion of Matt Canadas
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:55 am to Barneyrb
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:55 am to Barneyrb
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I think I read where they gave up 10 sacks in the Saturday scrimmage. If this is the case it will be a long (non productive) season. Oline will be the key.
That's very misleading. All it took to get a "sack" was to grab a jersey.
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:56 am to goldennugget
He's good, not great. The hype from LSU fans has really over inflated who he is.
With LSU's usual defense, Canada should be enough to shape LSU into a contender. But Etling and the OL will prove to be too much this year.
With LSU's usual defense, Canada should be enough to shape LSU into a contender. But Etling and the OL will prove to be too much this year.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:56 am to MrAUTigers
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Look at Peterman's Jr. year TD/int. ratio and then look at Etling last year. Night and day.
Eh, you can certainly argue that Peterman had the better Jr year but "I see a rather large difference in those stats" doesn't really follow looking solely at the TD/int ratio.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:56 am to ibldprplgld
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I mean, this applies to every college football team, not uniquely LSU.
No, it applies a lot more to teams with less QB talent. See some of Gus' 2009 and 2011 Auburn offenses. They had Todd and Barrett/Mosely at QB and had huge stats against bad defenses but against good ones they were basically shut down.
Spread type offenses with above average playcallers will roll up massive yards when they overmatch opponents. However, if there isn't an extend the field threat at QB all the playcalls and motions in the world won't matter against a good defense.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 11:58 am
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:56 am to MrAUTigers
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I am not sure what you are looking at
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Nathan Peterman wasn't really any better his junior year than Etling
Etling's Junior season (year prior to Canada)
160 for 269; 2,123 yards; 59.5%; 7.9 ypa; 11 TD, 5 INT; 135.54 QB Rating
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Peterman's Junior season (year prior to Canada)
193 for 314; 2,287 yards; 61.5%; 7.3 ypa; 20 TD, 8 INT; 138.57 QB Rating
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:58 am to goldennugget
Honestly I didn't know there were two of him.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 11:59 am to Barneyrb
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I think I read where they gave up 10 sacks in the Saturday scrimmage. If this is the case it will be a long (non productive) season. Oline will be the key.
8 sacks and 4 of those were by a walk on 3rd string guy, nothing to really read into there
Not sure why everyone is crapping on the OL. The starting OL will be very good, returned 3/5 starters from last year from PFF's #1 rated OL. You will need to hope our tackles to get injured for it to be any significantly worse, we just have depth issues at tackle.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:00 pm to Gatorbait2008
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Les was very, very good. Les just couldn't beat the monster that is Saban
Wrong...Les played down to everyone including Bama and that is why he got his arse fired. Playing not to lose cost LSU so many chances to leverage the talent Miles was able to bring to campus.
I know playing down to Bama sounds crazy, but he was so damn conservative on the offensive side that Bama was never challenged at all on defense.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:00 pm to thunderbird1100
Vs Power 5 schools
Etling 2016 - 129.48 rating (7 TD/3 INT)
Peterman 2015 - 145.17 rating (17 TD/3 INT)
Etling 2016 - 129.48 rating (7 TD/3 INT)
Peterman 2015 - 145.17 rating (17 TD/3 INT)
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:03 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Vs Power 5 schools
Etling 2016 - 129.48 rating (7 TD/3 INT)
Peterman 2015 - 145.17 rating (17 TD/3 INT)
It's not like those schedules were created equal
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:03 pm to thunderbird1100
Sorry, I see almost 50 more passes thrown, a better compl. percentage, and a much better TD/int. ratio.
I would think that Etling was dealing with a much better set of WR's than Pitt had also.
I would think that Etling was dealing with a much better set of WR's than Pitt had also.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Peterman 2015 - 145.17 rating (17 TD/3 INT)
Peterman had a 3 TD/5 INT ratio against non power 5?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:06 pm to thunderbird1100
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It's not like those schedules were created equal
Etling
134.5 vs MSU
104.5 @ Auburn
123.8 vs Missouri
133.7 vs Ole Miss
69.7 vs Alabama
144.9 @ Arkansas
124.5 vs Florida
192.2 @ Texas A&M
133.89 vs Louisville
He was not good against good defenses (Aubrun, Alabama, Florida).
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:07 pm to rockiee
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Peterman had a 3 TD/5 INT ratio against non power 5?
Yep
0/1 vs Youngstown
1/0 vs Akron
1/1 vs Notre Dame (which should probably count P5)
1/3 vs Navy (Bowl Game)
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:08 pm to MrAUTigers
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I would think that Etling was dealing with a much better set of WR's than Pitt had also.
True but do you think ACC Defense 15'> SEC Defense 16'
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:10 pm to rockiee
Etling Vs Auburn, Alabama, Florida
40/76 (53%)
5.4 YPA
1 TD/1 INT
138 YPG
40/76 (53%)
5.4 YPA
1 TD/1 INT
138 YPG
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:11 pm to MrAUTigers
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I see almost 50 more passes thrown
What does that have to do with anything being better or worse? Because you throw more passes over a season that's better? Etling played in 11 games last season starting 10 of them. Peterman played in 13 games his junior year starting in 12 of them. So Etling had less game time.
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a better compl. percentage
It's a 2% difference, negligible.
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and a much better TD/int. ratio.
You dont really understand ratios do you. 11 to 5 is a 2.2 to 1 ratio. 20 to 8 is 2.5 to 1 ratio. Again, pretty negligible. To extrapolate on that, if you give Etling Peterman's 8 INT, you have to give him 18 TD too.
Again, passer rating takes all these things into account, yards per attempt, TD%, INT%, completion % etc..Peterman = 138.57; Etling = 135.54
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:11 pm to rockiee
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True but do you think ACC Defense 15'> SEC Defense 16'
Well sure, but I also think Etling isn't very good. He has yet to do anything that shows anything differently. Week after week, last season, Etling's poor QB play was talked about ad nauseam.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:12 pm to MrAUTigers
Until proven otherwise I think Etling will be Chris Todd 2.0.
He'll have very shiny numbers vs bad D's and very inefficient numbers against good ones.
He'll have very shiny numbers vs bad D's and very inefficient numbers against good ones.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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He was not good against good defenses (Aubrun, Alabama, Florida).
Hurts was awful against the good teams too
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