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re: What is your honest opinion of Matt Canadas
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The problem in this debate is that I'm going to eventually be painted into the group that thinks Etling is good. So I'll just bow out now
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:14 pm to MrAUTigers
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Week after week, last season, Etling's poor QB play was talked about ad nauseam.
He was only poor against Alabama and Auburn. Any other game he was at least mediocre. It's not like he was just pitiful against any other teams outside of Alabama and Auburn.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:15 pm to MrAUTigers
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I also think Etling isn't very good. He has yet to do anything that shows anything differently. Week after week, last season, Etling's poor QB play was talked about ad nauseam.
I don't even disagree, I just don't believe his statement about their numbers not being that different isn't really untrue.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:16 pm to thunderbird1100
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Hurts was awful against the good teams too
Hurts was a true freshman who also chipped in about 100 YPG on the ground vs those teams
But, for comparison sake
Hurts vs LSU, Auburn, Florida
48/75 (64%)
7.1 YPA
3 TD/3 INT
177 YPG
51 YPG rushing
2 TDs rushing
228 All Purpose Yards per game
Etling Vs Auburn, Alabama, Florida
40/76 (53%)
5.4 YPA
1 TD/1 INT
138 YPG
8 YPG rushing
0 TDs rushing
146 All Purpose Yards per game
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:16 pm to rockiee
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The problem in this debate is that I'm going to eventually be painted into the group that thinks Etling is good. So I'll just bow out now
Nobody is arguing Etling is good, but saying he was pretty damn similar to Peterman before Canada coached him. Not like Peterman ever did anything spectacular either under Canada last season but ended up with a ridiculously good passer rating.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:17 pm to rockiee
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The problem in this debate is that I'm going to eventually be painted into the group that thinks Etling is good. So I'll just bow out now
Haha I was just posting stats your post just happened to be before mine and got replied.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Haha I was just posting stats your post just happened to be before mine and got replied.
Nah, I know you weren't doing that but I could still see it coming
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:19 pm to thunderbird1100
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Nobody is arguing Etling is good
Maybe not in this thread yet but it is still early
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:23 pm to thunderbird1100
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What does that have to do with anything being better or worse? Because you throw more passes over a season that's better?
No. My point is......it's easier to go 2/3 than 66/100. Both are 66%. The more passes you throw, the better chance for ints.. The more passes you throw, the greater chance for incompletions.
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You dont really understand ratios do you. 11 to 5 is a 2.2 to 1 ratio. 20 to 8 is 2.5 to 1 ratio. Again, pretty negligible. To extrapolate on that, if you give Etling Peterman's 8 INT, you have to give him 18 TD too.
Using that logic......take Etling's comp. percentage numbers and add 50 passes to them. There will be a larger gap in the completion percentage between the two.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:26 pm to MrAUTigers
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The more passes you throw, the better chance for ints.. The more passes you throw, the greater chance for incompletions.
You can make the exact same argument for completions and TDs
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:27 pm to rockiee
The numbers are there. Peterman was better across the board. It's not a he said/she said scenario.
Peterman was better across the board. It's not a he said/she said scenario.Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:28 pm to MrAUTigers
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Well sure, but I also think Etling isn't very good. He has yet to do anything that shows anything differently. Week after week, last season, Etling's poor QB play was talked about ad nauseam.
Not really. But because of the past QBs like Brandon Harris, it has become "cool" to say that the current LSU QB is the worst there is. Etlings stats were not any worse than half the other QBs in the SEC.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:29 pm to MrAUTigers
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Peterman was better across the board
I have already agreed, but that doesn't mean you didn't just use really bad logic
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:29 pm to AshLSU
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Etlings stats were not any worse than half the other QBs in the SEC.
Half of the QBs in the SEC sucked last year.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:33 pm to MrAUTigers
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No. My point is......it's easier to go 2/3 than 66/100. Both are 66%. The more passes you throw, the better chance for ints.. The more passes you throw, the greater chance for incompletions.
Etling threw the ball 25.5 times a game in his 10 starts last year
Peterman threw the ball 25.83 times a game in his 12 starts his junior year
Your "point" is completely irrelevant.
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Using that logic......take Etling's comp. percentage numbers and add 50 passes to them. There will be a larger gap in the completion percentage between the two.
What
You cant just reduce his completion percentage because you want to, both are large sample sizes.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:33 pm to pvilleguru
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:34 pm to MrAUTigers
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The numbers are there. Peterman was better across the board. It's not a he said/she said scenario.
He was very marginally better, as the passer rating shows. a 3 point difference in passer rating is ridiculously small.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:39 pm to AshLSU
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The Pitt QB was no better than Etling.
Yeah but Peterson wasn't playing in the SEC.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 2:23 pm to AU_251
Can't wait for this season to start. SEC is nervous as frick for good reason. Y'all all know LSU is just waiting to bust out the seams. Canada has said many times that this offense is easy so idk where y'all get this notion from. OL starting 5 is fine just as good as last year so idk where this comes from either.
Of course if LSU or any team has multiple injuries on the OL it will have an impact but that goes for every team in America. Also this isn't your typical spread offense. LSU also has more depth on defense then it's had in quite sometime.
I see that the entire SEC is hoping for the best for their own teams but LSU is going to be very good this year. It's really a shame that it's taken this long to bring in a real offense which can move the football on offense. The SEC just isn't the same when LSU isn't a dominant team. It's much more fun for everyone when LSU can really compete with Bama. As we all saw last year LSU isn't very far off.
I'm just ready for some football.
Of course if LSU or any team has multiple injuries on the OL it will have an impact but that goes for every team in America. Also this isn't your typical spread offense. LSU also has more depth on defense then it's had in quite sometime.
I see that the entire SEC is hoping for the best for their own teams but LSU is going to be very good this year. It's really a shame that it's taken this long to bring in a real offense which can move the football on offense. The SEC just isn't the same when LSU isn't a dominant team. It's much more fun for everyone when LSU can really compete with Bama. As we all saw last year LSU isn't very far off.
I'm just ready for some football.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 2:40 pm to goldennugget
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What is your honest opinion of Matt Canadas
I had no idea Donnie Baker was a UCLA fan.
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