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Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:07 am to crimson_one
Good point. So Miller knew what he was getting into
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:10 am to coachcrisp
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His lawyer ALREADY has.
Show me where it’s confirmed or denied that he read the text prior to delivery:
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:11 am to Goombaw
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Are you so stupid that you don’t understand what is criminally punishable and what isn’t?
I mean, I haven’t called for any criminal charges or jail time for Miller
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Are you so stupid that you think you know more than the people that have the facts of the case and determine who is at fault and who isn’t?
I’m not so stupid to think my star basketball player was a good boy who was just driving around oblivious to a gun in his backseat, driving around listening to gospel music with his phone turned off and put away so to not get distracted and had noooo idea what he was driving to. What stupid arse fanbase would believe that? Oh, yours
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:19 am to Bodie
Or there could be a third option somewhere between “a thug that delivered a gun to his friend with the intent that it be used to commit a crime” and your scenario.
An option like, Brandon had no context for the text, thought it was odd, but was already almost to Miles when it came through, pulled up to pick up Miles only for him to reach in the backseat, pull the gun out from under a shirt and hand it to his friend who then started shooting. Dash cam and video evidence support this, where is your evidence to the contrary?
An option like, Brandon had no context for the text, thought it was odd, but was already almost to Miles when it came through, pulled up to pick up Miles only for him to reach in the backseat, pull the gun out from under a shirt and hand it to his friend who then started shooting. Dash cam and video evidence support this, where is your evidence to the contrary?
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:27 am to Jon Ham
I’m not really interested in defending Miller. But Alabama has a stand your ground law. There’s no duty to retreat even if safe retreat is possible before using deadly force in self-defense. So I don’t think it could actually be a crime to deliver a gun to someone for purposes of self-defense even if you know it’s possible for them to retreat from the situation. If that’s what Miller thought he was doing—even though that’s not what ended up happening since the gun was not used for self-defense, but for murder— I don’t think Miller can be charged with anything.
On the other hand, I think the common law was right that there should be a duty to retreat if it can be done safely before using deadly force.
On the other hand, I think the common law was right that there should be a duty to retreat if it can be done safely before using deadly force.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:33 am to Goombaw
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An option like, Brandon had no context for the text, thought it was odd, but was already almost to Miles when it came through, pulled up to pick up Miles only for him to reach in the backseat, pull the gun out from under a shirt and hand it to his friend who then started shooting.
Oh there it is again. The “almost there and can’t do anything about it” excuse
I feel your 3rd option is less likely because who texts someone a message about needing something back if they know that person has no idea they’re riding around with it
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:39 am to Bodie
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Oh there it is again. The “almost there and can’t do anything about it” excuse
Maybe he didn’t read the text prior to arrival. Maybe he read it just as he was pulling up. But we don’t know when he read it. You would think if he read it at a time that was favorable to his situation, his attorney would tell us. Unless I’ve missed it, The University hasn’t commented on this question or confirmed whether they are inquiring into it.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:39 am to Bodie
Alabama has already made its decision that Miller did nothing wrong. They’re not going to indict him outside of the courtroom. We’re just going to have to wait to see what comes up. This is not me condoning what bama is doing just merely observing.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:44 am to Jon Ham
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Maybe he didn’t read the text prior to arrival. Maybe he read it just as he was pulling up. But we don’t know when he read it. You would think if he read it at a time that was favorable to his situation, his attorney would tell us. Unless I’ve missed it, The University hasn’t commented on this question or confirmed whether they are inquiring into it.
But regardless, the wording of the Darius Miles text says a lot
I leave something in my buddy’s truck, especially something like a firearm, I’m starting my text with “I left this…” or “I think my ___ is in your car”
You don’t have none of that. His text reads as if he knows Miller would know exactly what he needs.
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 11:45 am
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:52 am to imjustafatkid
But it didn’t say if he read it before arriving on the murder scene
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:55 am to Bodie
quote:Correct. Bama fans are being painful here
I won’t see or handle a bunch of things in my backseat when I go to lunch here in a bit. Since when does that mean I’m not aware I don’t have them back there?
There is a reason his attorney didn’t say “Brandon didn’t know a gun was in his car”. Now ask yourself why…..
Posted on 2/23/23 at 11:57 am to Mizsioux
quote:this is correct. Bama is all in
Alabama has already made its decision that Miller did nothing wrong. They’re not going to indict him outside of the courtroom. We’re just going to have to wait to see what comes up. This is not me condoning what bama is doing just merely observing.
IMHO, he will never be charged. But it will come out and be clear he knew the gun was in the car and that miles wanted it for his “faking it” encounter
And once that comes out, the ncaa/ sec could have a play potentially, or the Bama president comes out and acts “shocked” and fires Oates/Byrne
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 11:58 am
Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:01 pm to Jon Ham
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Yeah, that’s the fricking point. He hasn’t confirmed or denied this, and it appears the University of Alabama doesn’t want to ask.
Why do you care? Family member of Harris' or do not want BM dropping 40 your team Saturday?
Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:04 pm to ETT2001
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Why do you care?
Why do you not?
Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:07 pm to lsupride87
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But it will come out and be clear he knew the gun was in the car and that miles wanted it for his “faking it” encounter
How so? It's been over a month and the evidence is what it is for the prosecution of those that committed the crime. There will not be any more evidence to come forward that makes what you are wishcasting to happen.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:10 pm to Jon Ham
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Why do you care?
Why do you not?
Is that UA's job? Sounds like something the police and the DA's office will handle and its not on my conscience if they are not doing their job.
My point is the reason for your post is to sling mud at UA because Bama has dominated your football and basketball team for 2+ decades and it you have a chip on your shoulder about it and its caused strain in your life. It must suck.
Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:13 pm to Bodie
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mean, I haven’t called for any criminal charges or jail time for Miller
Gumpers are too stupid to see this side of it.
Brandon Miller is in all likelihood, a thug. Occam’s razor suggests he is not a choir boy in all this. BUT…the trash fanbase will defend him. Not only that, the trash fanbase will brag.
Sickest behavior in the SEC.
Oh, and inb4 faux outrage
Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:13 pm to Lg
quote:Well actually to anyone without bias it’s already clear he knew a gun was in the car
How so? It's been over a month and the evidence is what it is for the prosecution of those that committed the crime. There will not be any more evidence to come forward that makes what you are wishcasting to happen.
Becasue if he didn’t, and if he didn’t see the text, that would have been stated and repeated by the attorney multiple times
Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:15 pm to ETT2001
quote:Hello Penn State fan, meet Alabama fans
Is that UA's job? Sounds like something the police and the DA's office will handle and its not on my conscience if they are not doing their job.
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