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re: UGA has one alum in the top 40 in NFL rushing and calls itself "RBU"
Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:31 pm to DawginSC
Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:31 pm to DawginSC
Here's a list of UGA RB's who were drafted in the first 4 rounds since 1980 (note that Herschel is not on the list.
He went to the USFL):
James Cook (2nd)
Zamir White (4th)
D'Andre Swift (2nd)
Sony Michel (1st)
Nick Chubb (2nd)
Todd Gurley (1st)
Knowshown Moreno (1st)
Lars Tate (2nd)
Tim Worley (1st)
Keith Henderson (3rd)
Rodney Hampton (1st)
Garrison Hearst (1st)
Robert Edwards (1st)
Musa Smith (3rd)
Olandis Gary (4th)
If you include Herschel, those guys account for UGA's starters for the last 10 seasons, as well as 27 of the last 41 seasons.
That doesn't include guys who had pretty solid NFL careers despite later draft slots... like Verron Haynes (1.5 seasons as UGA starter), Isiah Crowell (1 season as UGA starter), Terrell Davis (2 seasons as UGA starter).
UGA has been a great producer of RB's overall, and particularly solid the last decade (with UGA RB's having at least one pro-bowl RB spot in 7 of the last 10 seasons)
UGA has a pretty good history of both quality and quantity at the RB position.
UGA's in the mix at other positions too. LB and Kicker (which may surprise some people).
At kicker John Kasay had 20 years in the NFL, Kevin Butler had 13, Todd Peterson had 12, Blair Walsh had 6 with an all-pro selection and Rodrigo "wild thing" Blankenship had 3 so far (though he may be done, with a hip injury screwing him up to the point he got waived last year and may not be picked up for next season).
UGA has a lot of guys in the NFL at a lot of positions. I honestly don't think we stand out at a particular position, we're just high up there because of how many players in general come out of UGA. It will likely move more in that direction with the last couple of years having a large number of players and the upcoming years looking to have a large number as well.
Bama's already there. They produce a lot of NFL talent at all positions. They're not disproportional.
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:44 pm to StopRobot
Herschel had over 8000 rush yds, 4000 receiving yds, and 5000 return yds in the NFL. He also had over 5000 rush yds in 3 seasons of USFL play. Pretty sure he is in the top 25 all time RB by anyone’s standard.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:56 pm to michael corleone
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Herschel had over 8000 rush yds, 4000 receiving yds, and 5000 return yds in the NFL. He also had over 5000 rush yds in 3 seasons of USFL play. Pretty sure he is in the top 25 all time RB by anyone’s standard.
Herschel is odd in that he probably doesn't deserve to be in the NFL hall of fame, but does deserve to be in a pro football hall of fame.
Trump kind of sank his HOF chances (that's who Herschel was paid by to go to the USFL).
Posted on 3/29/23 at 7:08 pm to StopRobot
Rent. Free.
Melt.
Melt.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 7:27 pm to StopRobot
Is this what fans whose teams aren’t defending back to back national champions talk about? I’ve forgotten.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:08 pm to DawginSC
quote:You get the moniker for what you send to the NFL. Penn State was "Linebacker U", because so many of those guys would become elite once they went to the League.
Not sure why you think NFL production is the measure of what University has the best players at a position.
Same thing for LSU being DBU, it's about those guys making huge impacts after going to the NFL.
That's the selling point to a recruit. It's nice to come to LSU, and start in hopefully some big games. They could go lots of places and do that. But LSU has the history of producing All Pros.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 9:25 pm to StopRobot
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Youre 1-1 vs Bama the last two years
How many natties you got over that period. Bye boomer.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 6:32 am to Porter Osborne Jr
The man makes a valid point and you show your youth.
We don't need to list them. We aren't the ones beating our chest with penis envy because of insecurity.
Just another lazy, arrogant young pup. Look them up yourself. While you are at it look at the top 50 running backs in SEC history.
The dawg is not that special.
We don't need to list them. We aren't the ones beating our chest with penis envy because of insecurity.
Just another lazy, arrogant young pup. Look them up yourself. While you are at it look at the top 50 running backs in SEC history.
The dawg is not that special.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 6:33 am to JetDawg
So how many 1,000 yard rushers does UGA have the last 20 years?
I found 11 but ESPN only went to 2004. That’s pretty impressive. Vols only had 6 in that time span.
I found 11 but ESPN only went to 2004. That’s pretty impressive. Vols only had 6 in that time span.
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 6:42 am
Posted on 3/30/23 at 6:57 am to Smokeyone
They are the best thing since sliced bread. Ask them!
Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:22 am to StopRobot
Posted on 3/30/23 at 8:50 am to StopRobot
I always thought UGA being called RBU was due to UGA's historic reliance on running the ball when other programs were slinging the ball all over the place. That said it'd be a rare program with more highly successful tailbacks than UGA has had over the years. I don't know what the criteria would be but UGA has had a good to excellent running attack for far more years of its existence than they haven't. I'd bet it would rank in the top 10 nationally measured anyway you'd like.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:06 am to DawginSC
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UGA's in the mix at other positions too. LB and Kicker (which may surprise some people).
I feel like Georgia and Auburn always have good kickers. Tennessee usually has good punters too.
I can go on.
Auburn always has a fierce and physical defensive line. Bama always has talented, athletic linebackers. LSU's linebackers and secondary typically have elite speed. Mississippi State always has some big nasty dudes in the front seven whose only job is to beat on you for 60 minutes, and they do it well.
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 9:11 am
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:08 am to AwgustaDawg
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I always thought UGA being called RBU was due to UGA's historic reliance on running the ball when other programs were slinging the ball all over the place.
There have been several definitions of "____U" offered in this thread and no one definition is the correct one. For me, I think it means a tradition of great players at a certain position. I frankly don't give a damn how the players do in the pros either.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:25 am to DawginSC
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Herschel is odd in that he probably doesn't deserve to be in the NFL hall of fame, but does deserve to be in a pro football hall of fame.
Theres no such thing as an NFL hall of fame, just the pro football hall of fame
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:28 am to DawginSC
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Not sure why you think NFL production is the measure of what University has the best players at a position.
Its not and I didnt say that. I specifically said...several times....that the context for declaring yourself XU has to do with alumni in the NFL.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:22 am to StopRobot
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Todd Gurley
Gurley never won a super bowl
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:28 am to BigTastey
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The man makes a valid point and you show your youth.
The man made a point and I asked for data to show it. This is how discussions work.
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We don't need to list them. We aren't the ones beating our chest with penis envy because of insecurity.
Just another lazy, arrogant young pup. Look them up yourself. While you are at it look at the top 50 running backs in SEC history.
This is why this place is a cesspool. Your jealousy of UGA football makes you have diarrhea of the keyboard instead of actually having a conversation.
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:29 am to BhamTigah
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BhamTigah
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Lots of criteria you could use for this. Just looking quickly at the top 150 career leaders in rushing, here are the SEC representatives:
Good stuff man. This is definitely one way to look at it and I appreciate it.
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:52 am to StopRobot
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Theres no such thing as an NFL hall of fame, just the pro football hall of fame
Unlike the baseball hall of fame though, the pro-football hall of fame generally doesn't include anyone based on accomplishments from professional leagues other than the NFL and AFL.
With USFL stats included, Herschel is ahead of Eric Dickerson and Tony Dorsett in rushing yards (and has way more receiving and kick return yards), putting him in the top 10 of all time. That would argue for a HOF selection. He was clearly the best player in USFL history.
Without the USFL stats, he's 45th all time in rushing, around guys like Roger Craig, Gerald Riggs and Priest Holmes. That's not quite HOF level.
Since he's not in the HOF, it's pretty evident those stats aren't being included.
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