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re: This is why we have no respect for College Station PD
Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:57 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:57 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
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My guess is that a lot of the "ACAB" folks are really, "ACAB...until I need them to protect me, then they're okay."
Most of these ACAB people are white liberals. They feel they must tell minorities how racist things are. They get off on that. Defunding the police, as they want, will only stop police from patrolling minority communities which will lead to even more drastic disparity when no one is there to be called.
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Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:58 am to bigDgator
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Anyone in here who has been roughed up by the cops raise your hand.
Never been
Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:59 am to I Bleed Garnet
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Never been
Because.... wait for it.... obeying the law leads to less police interaction. Groundbreaking.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:00 am to PorkDawg
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Because.... wait for it.... obeying the law leads to less police interaction. Groundbreaking.
Ding ding ding!
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:10 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Why do idiots think it is a good thing to attempt to run/fight the police?
If you are treated unjustly there are millions of lawyers standing by to sue the pants off of a municipality and they have tons of money.
Stop, comply and if the cop is wrong file a report and a lawsuit and the cop will be flipping burgers at a McDonalds that you will own because of the huge reward the courts gave you.
If you are wrong take your ticket and go about your way.
I lived in College Station for over 30 years and was not tied to the University for any reason. Students come and go (pee in your yard, have loud parties at 4 am, disobey driving laws, clog the grocery stores, cause wrecks etc) and need to understand that mommy and daddy can't get you out of every screw up in your life.
In other words, grow up, get educated and get the hell outta here after four years because some snotty nosed high school student wants your spot.
If you are treated unjustly there are millions of lawyers standing by to sue the pants off of a municipality and they have tons of money.
Stop, comply and if the cop is wrong file a report and a lawsuit and the cop will be flipping burgers at a McDonalds that you will own because of the huge reward the courts gave you.
If you are wrong take your ticket and go about your way.
I lived in College Station for over 30 years and was not tied to the University for any reason. Students come and go (pee in your yard, have loud parties at 4 am, disobey driving laws, clog the grocery stores, cause wrecks etc) and need to understand that mommy and daddy can't get you out of every screw up in your life.
In other words, grow up, get educated and get the hell outta here after four years because some snotty nosed high school student wants your spot.
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 9:11 am
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:23 am to agswin
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If you are treated unjustly there are millions of lawyers standing by to sue the pants off of a municipality and they have tons of money.
Stop, comply and if the cop is wrong file a report and a lawsuit and the cop will be flipping burgers at a McDonalds that you will own because of the huge reward the courts gave you.
They normally don't get fired. Temporary demotion is the usual outcome. shite, the cop whose name was all over my marijuana grow warrants got caught receiving boner pills and hydrocodone a year.5 prior. A felony to you or I, but he got a temporary demotion, then promoted to head of the organized crime task force. The playing field isn't remotely level.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:28 am to ArkTiger55
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Or just not do dumb shite. He was being a dickhead and purposely riding away from a cop. Were they a little overhyped about it? Yea, but any situation for a cop is high stress these days.
This.
Oftentimes when we play stupid games, we win stupid prizes.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:43 am to MoarKilometers
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The playing field isn't remotely level.
and probably never will but in the meantime there are ways to get things changed. Running from a guy with more guns, tasers, etc than you is a good way to have grieving survivors. Don't like a law? Work to change it. Don't become a justified statistic.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:51 am to agswin
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Don't like a law? Work to change it
What if your beef is with how they're arbitrarily enforced? How does one rectify that situation?
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:52 am to MoarKilometers
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What if your beef is with how they're arbitrarily enforced? How does one rectify that situation?
By not breaking the law
Posted on 5/8/21 at 11:49 am to Giant Leaf
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Shouldnt even react like this if a car blows a red light.
It seems pretty obvious this wasn’t a reaction to running the light, but to him stopping when they initially pulled him over then kept fricking going and doing circles to frick with them. He got put on his arse rightfully so.
Then rightfully caught the taser when making it as difficult as possible to be cuffed while making sure to not actually fight them.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 1:14 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
This is why ACAB got traction in this country.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 1:16 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
if it was jaywalking why not stop and get your ticket and move on
Posted on 5/8/21 at 1:16 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
He was being a jackass.
There’s a story there.
Those cops had no problem acting as they did in front of many witnesses.
There’s a story there.
Those cops had no problem acting as they did in front of many witnesses.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 1:20 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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What would you do if your house/car was broken into, or if you, or someone you loved, was assaulted? Would you call the cops to assist? I'm seeing more people throw around "ACAB" and I'm wondering what they'd do in a situation where they need the assistance of the police. My guess is that a lot of the "ACAB" folks are really, "ACAB...until I need them to protect me, then they're okay."
What is a cop going to do to stop a crime that personally harms me 99% of the time? Nothing.
Someone steals my truck? They’re just going to file a police report after it has happened. They’ll probably find it in a ditch a month later.
Someone physically assaults person outside a bar? At best the officer is at least in the area able to detain them…most likely we’re filing a police report for someone roughly 6-ft and wearing a generic set of clothing that could be anyone.
How many rapes are police going to stop? Or murders?
Sure, their are exceptional examples but the truth is that the majority of things I would need the police for are going to be after the fact mostly to document the damage for other legal purposes (insurance claims, etc).
I’m not a defund the police ideologue but lets be real.
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 5/8/21 at 1:26 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Diego Ricardo
I'm sorry, but this is dumb.
Values inculcation, educational and economic opportunity are the best means at crime prevention in a given community.
The police are intended for deterrence and response.
There are no 100% solutions. However, more opportunity exists for criminals to exploit in areas with less police presence to deter or quickly respond to and apprehend suspects after the fact.
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 5/8/21 at 1:28 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
There must be more to the story. Cops seemed like douchebags anyways.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 1:30 pm to Che Boludo
I didn’t argue for abolition of law enforcement but only a recognition that the vast majority of their utility will inevitably be responsive after the crime has occurred. The arguments that law enforcement actively prevents crime is flimsy. The argument that existence of law enforcement works to instill good behavior for most people is stronger.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 1:31 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Im going to be it was more than just basic jaywalking
Posted on 5/8/21 at 1:35 pm to Diego Ricardo
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The arguments that law enforcement actively prevents crime is flimsy
It doesn't, I agree.
It is deterrence and response. That is their true purpose. More LEOs in targeted spaces reduces opportunity and increases response time for timely apprehensions and supports increased deterrence.
Framing the problem as you have does not focus on the root cause. Prevention does not come from law "enforcement" by definition alone. Prevention moves left of the illegal act to provide values, education and opportunity that make criminal activity less desirable.
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