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re: Theory: Orgeron was always a good head coach
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:19 am to Adam Banks
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:19 am to Adam Banks
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in 2012 it took undefeated Ohio state being on probation for them to make the championship game.
A weak but undefeated Ohio State vs a weak but undefeated Notre Dame, while the two best teams - UGA and Alabama - sit at home for having the audacity to play much tougher schedules.
The HORROR.
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:19 am to deltaland
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:24 am to FourThreeForty
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It took about 5-6 top teams losing in the final 2 weeks for LSU to even be in contention in 2007 and that’s after Arkansas slapped them in overtime. Don’t pretend like that national championship wasn’t literally one of the worst national championship teams in football history led by an imitation Larry Coker.
Is that 2007 team one of the best ever? No, but by far the best and most deserving team THAT season. Undisputed National Champions. frick everyone that is greeen with envy for that. That team had some of it's better Seniors miss significant time due to injury. One of those was a horrible cheap shot by an AU punk to Dorsey the best player on the team. Also the starting QB missed some games, as did Doucet the best WR and Sr leader.
When fully healthy that team was pretty good. Va Tech won its conference and played in a BCS bowl game that season. LSU Spanked them. Also dominated the Championship Game pretty good.
No apologies to anyone. 2007 National Champions forever. No one can ever take that away. Many of you won't ever see your schools claim one in your lifetime.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:26 am to FourThreeForty
"It took about 5-6 top teams losing in the final 2 weeks for LSU to even be in contention in 2007 and that’s after Arkansas slapped them in overtime. Don’t pretend like that national championship wasn’t literally one of the worst national championship teams in football history led by an imitation Larry Coker."
We are talking about the national championship for the 2007 season so the teams from that season are the only ones we can consider. This being the case, what teams would YOU have placed in that national championship game and why would you have chosen them?
We are talking about the national championship for the 2007 season so the teams from that season are the only ones we can consider. This being the case, what teams would YOU have placed in that national championship game and why would you have chosen them?
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:29 am to FourThreeForty
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Don’t pretend like that national championship wasn’t literally one of the worst national championship teams in football history led by an imitation Larry Coker.
...and Jacob Hester is still running.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:30 am to skrayper
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k but undefeated Ohio State vs a weak but undefeated Notre Dame, while the two best teams - UGA and Alabama - sit at home for having the audacity to play much tougher schedules.
The HORROR.
Gumps started this. There wasn’t an obvious choice other than LSU in 2007 to play OSU.
In 2012 had osu not idiotically chosen to postpone their bowl ban (they had a choice of 2011 or 2012 season) and give a 7-5 interim coached team a bowl there is no question that a power 5 big ten winning undefeated blue blood goes to the national championship along with undefeated blue blood notre dame. Fans in the south would have whined but that’s it.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:34 am to FourThreeForty
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But they had 2 stink in’ losses
I'm honestly not sure, but how often have non-division winners been given a shot at the title? SEC West strength aside, I'm not sure many other teams have been given that benefit?
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:37 am to Adam Banks
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Gumps started this. There wasn’t an obvious choice other than LSU in 2007 to play OSU.
Georgia was the other 2 loss team that I recall having a good shot, but at the time, we were told because we didn't play in the conference championship game, we were not eligible...
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:40 am to deltaland
Or here’s an idea, maybe LSU is a wayyy better program than Ole Miss
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:42 am to fibonaccisquared
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Georgia was the other 2 loss team that I recall having a good shot, but at the time, we were told because we didn't play in the conference championship game, we were not eligible...
Yep. If not us it was either UGA who had the shame of not winning their own division (I mean it would be embarrassing to try and claim a national title if you can’t win your division) or va tech who we beat by 40 earlier in the year. The only real choice was LSU
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:50 am to Adam Banks
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Gumps started this
Y’all started this. To imply Louisiana has some sort of magic to where 3 random coaches can just come in and win championships is dumb. LSU is the only major team in Louisiana. 2009-2013 Alabama went to the national championship 3 times and Auburn twice. But I don’t need to tell you that.
Les Miles still had some of Nick’s recruits anyway.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:50 am to FourThreeForty
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Don’t pretend like that national championship wasn’t literally one of the worst national championship teams in football history
1941 says hello.
At least LSU won the SEC in 2007. 1941 9-2 Alabama? Not so much. 8-1-1 State won the SEC in '41, beating Alabama 14-0 along the way.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:52 am to fibonaccisquared
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Georgia was the other 2 loss team that I recall having a good shot, but at the time, we were told because we didn't play in the conference championship game, we were not eligible..
Georgia got spanked by Tennessee that went to the Championshp. Also lost another game. I know they did beat UK that beat LSU in 3 OTs.
It was an entire season of insanity but on it's final day when the biggest shocker happened (Pitt over WVU) LSU played in the SECCG and lift that trophy. UGA was home eating poocorn.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 11:19 am
Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:56 am to deltaland
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Theory: Orgeron was always a good head coach
As a born LSU fan he just hated Ole Miss that much
Posted on 1/29/20 at 11:10 am to FourThreeForty
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It took about 5-6 top teams losing in the final 2 weeks for LSU to even be in contention in 2007 and that’s after Arkansas slapped them in overtime
i hate this line. go back and look at those individual game results that you seem to be referring to. The difference is that of those top teams, LSU is the only one that won with a backup QB. those other teams lost when their starters went down.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 2:45 pm to deltaland
Ole Miss was a good learning experience for him. Unlike most head coaches he realized his mistakes and was willing to change his system.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 3:54 pm to FourThreeForty
1986
Posted on 1/29/20 at 4:06 pm to FourThreeForty
Who are you and why the melt over your SEC Overlord, LSU?
aggie?
aggie?
Posted on 1/29/20 at 4:51 pm to r2d2
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Georgia got spanked by Tennessee that went to the Championshp. Also lost another game. I know they did beat UK that beat LSU in 3 OTs.
It was an entire season of insanity but on it's final day when the biggest shocker happened (Pitt over WVU) LSU played in the SECCG and lift that trophy. UGA was home eating poocorn.
So eager to troll that you missed the entire context of the conversation... the only reason I mentioned UGA was to illustrate that in 2007, the college football world said that winning your division and playing in conference championship games mattered... until it didn't. I don't begrudge LSU for going that year at all... we certainly had our chances...
Posted on 1/29/20 at 4:58 pm to Toroballistic
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Of the six active head coaches who have won titles, four coached at LSU this century (Jimbo Fisher was OC in 2003)
quote:There are 6 active HC's that have won NC's Saban/Miles/Orgeron/Swinney/Brown/Fisher of those coaches, 4 of them coached at LSU at some point either HC or an Asst.
If you are counting current head coaches that won titles as a head coach or assistant I believe there are more than six. Saban, Smart, Pruitt, McElwain, Kiffin, Dabo, Les, Orgeron, Fisher, and Aranda all come to mind. There are probably more.
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