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Don’t shoot the messenger. I was told: 1) Meeting was called day after A & M. Woodward”s marching orders were to get Kelly to fire Sloan to appease the fan base. 2) Kelly made it a 2 hour scream fest and refused. He even suggested he fire Davis. Said his contract said he could decide who was fired, not AD. 3) It became so confrontational, Woodward let him go due to insubordination. 4) Woodward reported what happened, and Landry freaked out. 5) Landry, who had a hard on for Woodward because of Will Wade stuff, then cuts Woodward’s legs in the press conference. 6) BOS scratching their heads because Woodward was never supposed to get fired. Can’t really say anything because Landry does have the power over them. There are those that think Kelly acted that way with the intention of getting fired. He was checked out, and wanted to cash out. They are now negotiating the buyout, which is normal……but could get ugly. Needless to say, a real shite sandwich.




Honestly this would make a lot of sense.

I think they were preparing for a after the season firing but Kelly made it untenable
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The ability to fire for cause must be backed up with actual proveable cause.


Ok?



Why would LSU give up that negotiating chip? Even if it’s borderline and would undergo litigation you keep that in your back pocket.
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You’re speculating that they do.



Brian Kelly is the one speculating that they have cause to fire him that’s why he’s rushing this declarative judgement on the grounds that he has been formally terminated
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Why is lsu negotiating if they have what they need to fire for cause?




Because it’s a bad look to go after your head coach when you are looking to hire another.
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Hence Woody fricking up the whole thing.


As much as I knock woody this didn’t even happen either. There has been no evidence that LSU with or without Woodward issued a written formal notice of termination
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Is he wrong? If LSU didn’t notify him of cause, it’s a pretty big legal gamble to try and do it retroactively


Yes he’s wrong. LSU would be well within its rights and would in fact be GENEROUS to try to negotiate a reduced lump sum settlement despite having the ability to fire for cause.


They would also be idiotic to formally fire him with negotiations ongoing when they have cause in their back pocket
LSU upgraded with Dalton at the helm.

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 10:07 pm to
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I’m not cheering anyone on here. But if you sign a contract, honor it.



Going on vacation when we play a top 15 team the following Saturday isnt honoring the contract.


One of the reasons for cause listed in his contract 11.a.1.e is failure to perform his duties to the best of his ability. Taking a vacation during a 14 week season would not be performing his duties to the best of his ability.

Other places in the contract have references to performance of duties at a comparable P5 or SEC school. So it would be reasonable to compare him to previous LSU coaches as well as upper tier SEC schools. I doubt many SEC Head Coaches are going to the beach on the bye week with a top 15 school next on the schedule.

Theres some other clauses that they may could use as well but I dont think that it helps anyone to go down that road so I wont go there.

It may be tough to prove in court but LSU should keep their options open.

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 8:46 pm to
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They held a press conference and announce he was relieved of his duties immediate. I don’t know how any reasonable person could consider that anything less than termination. But maybe there is legal technicality that LSU can exploit though it would be incredibly shitty to do so and would be a giant red flag for any potential coaching candidate (in any sport)



Y’all sure want to be a stickler about what constitutes cause and behavior detrimental to LSU but don’t want to be sticklers about how the contract determines termination.



Kelly is trying to bend LSU over a barrel and y’all are cheering him on.


re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 8:10 pm to
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I cant image Kelly ever steps foot in Baton Rouge or on LSU campus again.


If I’m LSU and i end up having to pay the buyout I make sure that it’s over the length of the contract and that no direct deposit allowed. He has to show up to the bursars office every month to get his check and that the check is voided if not deposited within 1 week of being written :lol:


I mean it would obviously be pretty easy for him to do so but just to make it as inconvenient as possible would be just a little bit satisfying

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 8:02 pm to
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Brian Kelly is alleging that LSU is saying they didn’t officially terminate him. There is a difference. You are using a lawsuit as a statement of fact, and you are accepting the words they are putting in LSU’s mouth.




I think that it’s safe LSU would publically say that they officially terminated him without cause rather than go through this PR nightmare if that’s what they had done :lol:

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 7:49 pm to
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LSU's "no written notice, so no termination" schtick ignores the elephant stomping through the room: the October 27 press conference where Woodward declared Kelly "no longer the head coach," the immediate lockout from his office and facilities (as detailed in the petition), and the board's rubber-stamp silence while they lowballed him $25M/$30M under without-cause terms. Not a whisper of "for cause" until Kelly lawyered up and called their bluff—now it's retroactive whataboutism on recruiting gripes they knew about for years?



Well I consider offering $25/30 when you have cause that could reduce it to zero generous but what do I know.


LSU announced his pending termination with negotiation of severance ongoing.


It would not be the first time a company paid a reduced buyout in lieu of pr nightmare litigation.

LSU alleges that they didn’t officially terminate him (which would keep their options open) which would not be surprising given they were trying to give a generous offer to avoid costly litigation both expense wise and PR wise. If they have cause why would they give up that option and start the clock do so when negotiations for a quiet parting are ongoing?

re: Brian Kelly Files Suit Against LSU

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 7:28 pm to
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I am old school. A man pays his obligations. LSU looking like bitches.



I’m old school as well. You don’t work you don’t eat. Not get $54 million.


You do a bad enough job to get fired then you didn’t keep your nose to the grindstone enough.

Being lazy doesn’t deserve $54 million

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 7:24 pm to
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Why would he do that when he has Tate and Woodward who will testify on his behalf?


One of those people was in New Jersey at the point Kelly was terminated and the other LSU alleges fired Kelly improperly so I don’t know if those are the witnesses you are looking for

re: Get em BK!

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 6:42 pm to
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What they are doing is unprecedented and amounts to pure theft



Based on the reports of his work habits I’m sure LSU feels like BK has already engaged in pure theft.

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 6:40 pm to
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And maybe what you say true from a purely legal sense, but is that worth the PR nightmare that will come from it?


Hence Kelly’s suit.


He’s playing chicken.


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You think any cos h worth his salt is going to come here knowing that’s how the school and state do business?



IF they have cause and get out of it if I’m LSU I broadcast publicly that I’m giving the $20million that was generously set aside for BK out of goodwill is going to the new coach as a signing bonus


I think you can get a worthy coach with that bonus.


It’s all a game of poker at this point. Kelly crossed the rubicon and called LSU with his suit. We will see what LSU has at this point

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 6:36 pm to
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I just want to learn about the psychology of people who say things like you are here. Do you actually believe anybody is fooled or impressed by these maneuvers? Do you think it makes you smarter than everyone else? What do you get out of this charade emotionally, especially when it's not even your money at stake? I get why LSU is doing what it's doing. What it's doing is extremely scummy and obviously shady, but $54 million is $54 million




I’m just discussing the situation.

Any other field poor performance can get you fired without $54 million.

Sure call it jealousy but I think getting immediately paid $30 million to not coach football is above and beyond generous so I’m not going to shed a tear if LSU tries to see it through

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 6:32 pm to
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But that paper trail has absolutely nothing to do with the “7 day timer” you do confidently referenced in your OP. ETA: Again, back-dating the clock on that 7-day cure period would actually be very bad for Kelly because it would mean he had not addressed whatever issue led to the firing.


It was poorly worded.


He is trying to backdate the firing to his meeting with Woodward to prove he wasn’t given a 7 day cure

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Adam Banks on 11/11/25 at 6:30 pm to
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LSU maintains that they have not issued the written termination. Where has LSU said this?



That is literally the entire purpose of this suit.

Kelly wants a judge to rule that he has been terminated weeks ago and that since he was terminated and not notified for cause LSU didn’t give him a 7day cure period.