Adam Banks

If Iran beats Egypt do we get Iran in the second round?

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Listen you clearly feel differently about the Bible being the word of God. You're clowning this exchange, which is too bad.

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Well you don’t seem to think that God has said what one must do to be saved even when it is explicitly said in the Bible. So you might understand my confusion.

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ans disagree with you/those you follow is the second part, what "knowingly rejects that and follows a different religion" means and how God passes judgment accordingly.

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If you can show me the verse where it says someone can know Jesus and Christianity and actively choose to not follow Jesus and go to heaven I’m happy to hear.

Additionally in the scenario presented she is actively worshipping another God.

I’m not sure how one could reject Christianity any more than that. It takes a lot of gymnastics of interpretation or straight disregard of verses IMO to say otherwise.



I sincerely hope she repents.

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I have clearly posted that I believe it's possible for a person born into a Hindu family/culture to reach heaven.

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Here's your post - I don’t think it would be controversial that a professing Christian would believe the scriptures that say that Christ is the only way to salvation and that someone who knowingly rejects that and follows a different religion would end up in hell. What part of that do you think I find controversial?

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These two quotes from you say very different things.

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I've also posted that I think it's folly, and pretty strange coming from a Christian, by the way - to think that either one of us can know how God will judge another person

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Listen you clearly feel differently about the Bible being the word of God.

However it’s the opposite of saying “**** Usha” to discuss this if you believe the word of God if she is clearly rejecting Christ as Lord as she did in this video.



Why would I not say something if I believe the word of God?

That would be extremely hateful. It would be like a parent watching their child and actively letting a toddler burn themselves on the stove.

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So unless Vance's wife is running for office, what is your point?

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Well it makes me question the sincerity of his beliefs if his wife is Hindu and his kids are being raised Hindu.

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What planet are you living on? The man and his wife have been anything but quite about his life, family, and beliefs. Hence the OP

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You’re the one who got offended about it acting like it should be off limits not me.

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I think that makes you 0 for 3. Here's your post - I don’t think it would be controversial that a professing Christian would believe the scriptures that say that Christ is the only way to salvation and that someone who knowingly rejects that and follows a different religion would end up in hell. What part of that do you think I find controversial

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Well you refuse to answer a simple yes or no question. Vance’s wife is a professing Hindu and rejected Christianity.


Will she go to hell?

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What makes you think it's controversial to see that all Christians are not 100% in sync on Christianity?

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I don’t think it would be controversial that a professing Christian would believe the scriptures that say that Christ is the only way to salvation and that someone who knowingly rejects that and follows a different religion would end up in hell.



You still have yet to cite a scripture that outside of one which cites the law.

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You tell me

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I’m asking for your beliefs and scripture to cite.


I’ve made it perfectly clear what I think.




ETA I truly want to know your beliefs and why based on scripture.


I honestly didn’t even think what I have said would be a controversial thing to people who profess Christianity

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So you don't think God grants who is saved?

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How does he do that?

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What the **** have I posted that makes you think I don't believe there's a hell, and that many, many souls will find their way to it?

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Who or what grants salvation?



Multiple people have asked that but you haven’t seem to answered that

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You interpret that Bible verse (and others) differently than I do.

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You cite a verse that specifically deals with the law to claim that Hindus worshipping another god can ho go heaven.


I’m happy to hear your interpretation and other supportive scripture

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It's pretty presumptuous (not really a virtue) to suggest that I don't believe the Bible.

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I take no joy in saying lost people will spend eternity apart from God.

However it is the exact opposite of loving to not have these discussions if that is my belief that is founded in the Bible. It’s in fact incredibly cruel to not have the discussion.

Hence why I am spending this time discussing this.



It is a fundamental belief of Christianity of the trinity father son and Holy Spirit and that the only path for salvation is grace from Yahweh due to Jesus fulfilling the law by his death on the cross.



You may *feel* that sentencing a good person to Hell is mean because they look for salvation in places other than Jesus but that’s what the Bible says.


It’s (universalism) also been declared heresy by the Catholic Church (Origen)