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re: The Targeting penalty is broken

Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:01 am to
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
24695 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:01 am to
Any hard hit is targeting. Saw it numerous times this year when the refs are trying to protect a team. Not just SEC refs. Easiest way to change the course of a game
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50785 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:06 am to
Fine their nil $
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33579 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:07 am to
Worst rule in sports and has been since its inception
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46600 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:13 am to
quote:

I can’t help but chuckle when I hear them talk about “forcible contact”. It frickin football! It’s ALL forcible contact! That’s the frickin point!!! Lol


I can't help but laugh when they say "targeting." You are supposed to target the ball carrier. How about "launch?" Are you not supposed to use force? Do they want defenders to run around standing straight up and just hope they bump into the guy with the ball and he falls down?

It is absurd and it is like removing punches to the face in boxing because it can cause a head injury.
Posted by TDCat
Louisville
Member since Oct 2013
1006 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:16 am to
quote:

There should definitely be a clause where the penalty is waived off if the offensive player also initiates contact with the crown of their helmet.
Would like to see how many targeting calls were actually the defender lowering their helmet FIRST and the offensive player then lowers their helmet to actually create the helmet-to-helmet contact.

They've missed this crucial part since the inception of this mess.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
11649 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:16 am to
So if you are a defensive player and an offensive player carrying the ball lowers their helmet first isn’t it just instinctive for the defensive player to lower their helmet
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
9016 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:16 am to
got called on LSU last night too.
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 11:26 am
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10111 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:17 am to
The spirit of this rule was meant to prevent players from trying to cause obvious harm. For example:

This is fricking targeting.


This is not targeting:
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
111764 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:19 am to
quote:

The Targeting penalty is broken


Yes it is. Ejections need to be eliminated unless it is 100% obvious. And more reversals need to be applied due to the offensive player moving his head at the last second.

Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
20326 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:19 am to
They are not addressing WR or RB lowering their heads.

The 2nd Georgia player ejected- I’m sorry, but I will go to my grave thinking that was a form tackle.

And the RB exposed the crown of his head. It’s a natural act of bracing for impact.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14089 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:23 am to
Both targeting fouls were just open field tackles. The lock their eyes on the wrs number and as that lowers the helmet lowers.

Targeting was put in place to stop headhunting. Neither of those plays were head hunting.
Posted by hogansas
BEEBE, AR
Member since Aug 2019
59 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:25 am to
If they were really concerned about player safety they would use padded helmets. The padded helmet is used in practice but not games.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10111 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:26 am to
quote:

If they were really concerned about player safety they would use padded helmets. The padded helmet is used in practice but not games.


Honestly, get rid of the helmets entirely. Players will have more superficial injuries like cuts and may be some teeth gone, but concussions will almost disappear. If Rugby can do it, why not football?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51444 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Mark it off but ejection is terrible


Exactly. If a player intentionally spears another player with their helmet with the obvious intent of inflicting injury I think ejection should be considered but that doesn't happen very often.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
24993 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:27 am to
They could fix the targeting fiasco but stating the player must be defenseless. A ball carrier lowering his head is not,



This is.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
9636 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:28 am to
It's a terrible rule and has been since the very first time it was implemented. It has nothing at all to do with player safety. It was, and is, a corporate-style defense against potential litigation and a sop to public opinion (specifically the media) put out when the furor about concussions became the media's talking point of the day and nothing else. That's why they don't remove the ejection aspect, because they're afraid of lawsuits from former players and of talking heads accusing them of not being serious about player safety.

The true culprit in this is our fricked-up court system. Football is clearly a dangerous sport and anyone participating in it does so willingly at their own risk, but "I don't have walking-around sense and wasn't aware I could get hurt because the people in charge didn't come out and hold my hand and specifically enumerate the ways I might get hurt" is a legitimate winning strategy in lawsuits.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19699 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:42 am to
quote:

In the LSU Arky game, I was glad they actually waved off a targeting flag.

Except by the way the rule is written it was targeting. The player "launched" and contact was with the "head or neck area".
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
29463 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:43 am to
My favorite part is when the guy on offense lowers his head right before you hit him so you get a helmet to helmet smack.... that the offensive guy initiated
Posted by BevoHornsUp
Member since Feb 2023
214 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:46 am to
Yes, it’s being called with too much caution now. It’s almost impossible to not have head/crown contact in some instances. NFL calling it same way.
Posted by TigerScorpion
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2018
1212 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:48 am to
Yep. The bitch-arse commentators were trying to condemn Sage Ryan for targeting when his fricking shoulder pad hit helmet. These fricks are perpetuating this bullshite.
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