SidewalkDawg

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To fall behind who? China?

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You laugh, but China has some real advantages here.

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Anyone else scared that Sam Altman is going to be in charge of it?

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I think people consistently misunderstand what AI is, what it's capable of, and what possible outcomes our future holds. As it stands there are 2 futures ahead of us.

1. Sentience with AI is impossible. There is something special about organic life. Call it a soul - maybe it's the substrate. Who knows. AI will continue to run as it does today within limited service of humanity.

2. Sentience with AI is possible. This means we have to solve the alignment problem. How do you align AI with the goals of Humanity? Can you even do it? If sentience is possible, so is self-improvement, so is superintelligence. With superintelligence all bets are off. We have no hope of containing or controlling it.

Right now, all serious safety experts in the field of AI are working on the alignment problem. Simultaneously, China, USA, Israel, Europe, who knows how many others are ALL pushing advances through for AI and they are ALL hoping that we solve the alignment problem before it's too late.

That's it. That's the situation. You can choose to believe it or not. But this problem is highly likely to bite us in the arse in our lifetimes whether you disregard it or not.

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Innovation is way beyond solving games with set rules.

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I said it "Depends on what you define as innovation"

The point was that no one thought AI could that yet either. It's consistently met or broken our expectations.

My only point in all of this is that we should not take it likely and just assume that it has limits. We don't know shite about our own consciousness and we are pushing forward. If there is even a 5% chance that what we are doing results in Superintelligent AI we should all be concerned.

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that in and of itself means we are and will always be in charge.

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This is hubris I can't wrap my head around. IF (and that's a big IF) AI gains sentience, we aren't going to know. In fact, it's highly likely to continue to assist us in innovating technologies, like new frontiers in energy generation, until it's at a point where it is in control.

This isn't going to happen like it does in the movies. AI will cooperate until it doesn't need to and when that happens, it's already too late.

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AI is marketed as a sci-fi fantasy come true. All it is is the ability to navigate more and more data. Yes it can piece the puzzle faster than any one human can. So speed is its main quality above humanity. But it can never “think” above the data it’s given, which is the dream of so many who think humans can create life. Sorry, that ain’t happening

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You may be right. You also may be wrong. I would err on the side of caution with this one.

AI as an existential threat is very very real.

It's more real than any Nuclear threat during the height of the cold war.

That doesn't mean it's a foregone conclusion, and it hinges on a lot of assumptions about the nature of consciousness.

Our best guess is that sentience and will arise out of systems that are complex enough - the human brain has ~86 billion neurons and the next most complex brain on Earth is a chimp with ~28 billion neurons. If that's true, we simply need to keep on the current path we are on and AI will become super intelligent. After that we are merely observers of the future AI will craft.

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A 60 vote majority is in place to prevent democratic tyranny against a minority party.

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I say end it. The government being able to get things done has always been the problem. With the Filibuster ended, whoever is in power will get to pass what they want and then the other side can repeal it when they have power.

This "let's get along, i'll scratch your back and you scratch mine" is exactly what got us into this mess to begin with.

I think he should do this:

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Most polling fwiw

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Yep, I've seen a ton of polls that are blaming Republicans. Not that anyone believes polling anymore. So all we are really left with is "Feelings".