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re: The refs created a rule to give LSU an untimed down and they still lost

Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:28 pm to
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:28 pm to
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Even then, I don’t think they would have been able to get all 11 players set in 2 seconds to run play.

Teams do it all the time.

There’s a definite possibility they frick it up but it’s very likely they get a play off
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55341 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:31 pm to
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I think the only thing the refs did wrong on the play was rule he was outta bounds.

That and took fifteen minutes on an obvious review. horseshite.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18121 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:42 pm to
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Even then, I don’t think they would have been able to get all 11 players set in 2 seconds to run play


They had more than 2 seconds to line up and snap the ball. The 2 seconds were what was left on the play clock. They have however much time it takes to set the chains. Which would be more than 2 seconds.
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:45 pm to
The clock was already stopped because the ref thought the player went out of bounds.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53533 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:46 pm to
Not sure there was a way out of that bad call to begin with.


Just a bad game


Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26997 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 12:00 am to
Here's where you're fricking up:

This:

quote:

The refs claimed LSU would get one play


does not equal this:

quote:

They gave LSU an untimed down


Anyone who has watched more than a game or two of football knows that an untimed down at the end of a period occurs with 0:00 on the clock. That did not happen. There was 0:01 on the clock, and that second ran off during the last play.

Seriously...you have to be pretty fricking stupid not to grasp this. Go back and look at the fricking replay. 0:01 was on the clock, and it ran off. That isn't "untimed", dipshit. Time doesn't run on an untimed down.

I mean, are your English skills so fricking lacking that you don't know the definition of "untimed"?

Again...are you really this fricking stupid?

This post was edited on 9/5/22 at 12:03 am
Posted by Referee56
Member since Sep 2022
1 post
Posted on 9/5/22 at 11:26 am to
Interesting debate about timing at end of game, but Big 12 Crew did make it up when declaring LSU gets 1 play - 2 Things: 1. Problem in 2019 Iron Bowl was clock was “running/not stopped” when timing was checked - can’t get off a play w just 1 sec left b/c all offensive players must be set for 1 sec AFTER Ref signals, so it was then impossible by rule for AU to get off play; 2. Last Night: Here is text of 2020 Rule Change after 2019 Iron Bowl:: “Instant Replay / Clock Adjustment – Rule 12-3-6 If the clock expires at the end of a half, and replay determines that there was time remaining on the clock, and the clock would start on the Referee’s signal after review, there must be at least 3 seconds remaining when the ball should have been declared dead to restore time to the clock. With 2 seconds or 1 second remaining on the clock, the half is over. This change will not impact situations when the clock is stopped [for situations like incomplete passes or runner going out of bounds].” The replay indicated ball should have been marked down inbounds and ready for play after resetting chains w 2 seconds on clock - but above rule (“with 2 seconds or 1 second remaining on the clock, the half is over”) indicates LSU should not have been given a play. Even if this 2020 Rule were not in place - Big12 Crew made up “LSU gets 1 play” and, at best for LSU, they had to scramble around, try to get set after Ref signal, and not been given time to calmly line up and run play.
Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
4346 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 11:53 am to
Those refs were from the BDF and confused LSU with texas university. They were practicing for Alabama.
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
5835 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 11:58 am to
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The refs made FSU take a timeout to challenge a clearly in bounds player instead of doing a review


They also called a review when LSU had momentum on a 4th and goal play, allowing FSU to substitute.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21374 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 12:04 pm to
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joshnorris14


Your performance in this thread...

Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 12:05 pm to
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EastBankTiger


This one has potential. He's been melting in a few threads so far.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21374 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 12:08 pm to
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This one has potential. He's been melting in a few threads so far.



You have melting confused with laughing at bad trolling. We get it, you have the cerebral capabilities of a Down Syndrome kid. So, did you find any of those specifics, Corky?
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6439 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 12:10 pm to
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Pretty sure FSU called a timeout to challenge the play.

I really do not think FSU called a timeout to challenge the play. Norvell is not that smart. They called timeout to substitute their goal line personnel.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 12:15 pm to
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You have melting confused with laughing at bad trolling. We get it, you have the cerebral capabilities of a Down Syndrome kid. So, did you find any of those specifics, Corky?


Yup, called it.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9790 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 12:26 pm to
I saw that. Even the broadcast team said there should be a 3 second runoff. The "Auburn" rule as we call it Alabama. 2019 Iron bowl. The refs stop the clock to review the catch and didn't start it until the next snap which gave Auburn time to kick a FG. An officials timeout is one where once the ball is spotted the ref blows the whistle as he is standing over the ball and the clock starts. I thought they adopted a rule that said 3 seconds would run off but I guess not. Basically LSU got an extra timeout. They gotta get this corrected because its all over the place with different crews. That game should have ended when the receiver didn't score and his knee was ruled inbounds.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18121 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 12:35 pm to
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That game should have ended when the receiver didn't score and his knee was ruled inbounds.


It wouldn't have ended right there because he got a first down.

If everything went as it was supposed to the refs would have ruled him in bounds but still stopped the clock because it was a first down. At that point there should have been 1-2 seconds of legit game time on the clock.

The refs would have then moved the chains and the clock would have been stopped until they were set. Lsu had that amount of time to line up and run a play. Who knows if they could have done that. But they would have still had that opportunity.

The refs screwing up on the in bounds/outta bounds call is what caused the whole mess.
Posted by Blackgloves
Texas
Member since Aug 2021
3776 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 12:37 pm to
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I understand you are saying they created a rule. What was the rule they created idiot?


When you ignore or disregard a rule, you're essentially creating a new one, Idiot.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 12:39 pm to
Not the first time it's happened either. LSU vs Arkansas when LSU had a bizzare powdered gold helmet had a player go down in bounds and the regs called him out and it allowed them a win.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21374 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 1:03 pm to
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Yup, called it


THIS was really the best that you could do?

Congratulations on simultaneously displaying the deflection skills of Jen Psaki along with the deer in the headlights ignorance of Karine Jean-Pierre. MOST impressive.

Good boy, here's a cookie.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19159 posts
Posted on 9/5/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Yeah I didn’t understand that. Shouldn’t the clock start on the whistle?



The clock was going to start when the ref blew the whistle. That is why LSU was on the line ready to snap it as soon as the whistle blew. Then FSU called a TO.

The ref did say LSU had time for one play I guess alluding to the question of whether there was enough time to get a play off. If ref got the out of bounds call right then the game was over.
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