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re: The refs created a rule to give LSU an untimed down and they still lost

Posted on 9/4/22 at 10:56 pm to
Posted by 2Dueces
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 10:56 pm to
It’s all irrelevant. LSU lost!
Posted by PayPal
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 10:57 pm to
You’re wrong. Flat wrong. Just admit you do t know what you’re talking about.

The player was ruled out of bounds. So clock stopped. It was the reviewed and over turned. LSU got a first down and in college, the clock stops to move the chains. The clock would then start on the ready.

Assuming LSU was ready to snap it on the whistle, they indeed could have snapped it with 1 second left.

FSU called a timeout after this, so it was rendered useless anyway. But it was NOT an untimed down.

You’re absolutely incorrect on this and you’re out of your league challenging me about it.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 10:58 pm to
I'm not wrong. The refs claimed LSU would get one play - they don't have the authority to hike the ball with a live game clock for LSU. They gave LSU an untimed down
Posted by PayPal
Member since Jun 2022
524 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 10:59 pm to
They would get one play. He never said untimed down. They were entitled to
One play because the clock stops on a first down. Man, what don’t you understand?
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:01 pm to
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I'm not wrong. The refs claimed LSU would get one play - they don't have the authority to hike the ball with a live game clock for LSU. They gave LSU an untimed down



It wasnt an untimmed down and the second timeout didnt change anything

Im not sure why everyone is so confused about this

It ended up being a no win move for Florida State because the refs did not initiate the review. So Florida State had to use a timeout to challenge the play.

Once that happened the clock stops.

Really there was no difference between just having him ruled out of bounds at that point.
Posted by BurnsideStyle
Member since May 2014
1760 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:01 pm to
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The clock operator kept a second on the clock


Not the first time. “Welcome to Louisiana. Set your clocks back 4 seconds.” Fourcade and shite.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45377 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:03 pm to
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They would get one play.


Lining up at the line of scrimmage is not a "play".
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:03 pm to
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Auburn did get one in the Iron Bowl. You can call a play with less than 3 seconds left, that's not an issue. What is an issue is when you clock the ball with less than 3 seconds left, and then get a play after. That is what Auburn did.

You don’t even remember what happened because we didn’t clock the ball.

We didn’t get an untimed down. The clock started running on the whistle.

We got a first down to put us in FG range. Runner was down with 1 second left. Clock should’ve stopped to move the chains but the refs incorrectly stopped the game thinking time had run off. So we got them to review. They overturn it and put a second back on the clock. We got the FG team out there due to the replay and snapped it as soon as the whistle blew. (We had to snap it as soon as the whistle blew or it would’ve been halftime.

Kind of bullshite because the only reason we have time to do any of that is the replay but at the time that was the rule.

An untimed down is when they literally don’t even run the clock. Say a penalty happens at the end of the game and the clock is at zero. The offense gets to run a play with no clock.


Go to 7:31 in this link. Ref literally says clock will run on the whistle. LINK
This post was edited on 9/4/22 at 11:10 pm
Posted by VolNavy98
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Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:03 pm to
He wouldn’t have never called the timeout of the clock was still running and ran the 1 second off. The player was tackled in bounds, meaning the clock should have only stopped long enough to spot ball and clock starts again. LSU wouldn’t never had time to clock it with 1 seconds left if ref calls player down inbounds correctly. Instead he called him out of bounds and stopped clocked immediately.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:03 pm to
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The TO challenge plus Norvell calling a timeout after the challenge effectively negated the running clock.



True; however, if the refs get it right on the field it probably doesn't matter. LSU had a lot of time to draw up a play that they would not have had otherwise.
Posted by PayPal
Member since Jun 2022
524 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:05 pm to
They had one second, once the ball was spotted, and the ready for play whistle blows.

Once that whistle blows, center snaps the ball and thus, one play.

Just stop man. You’re wrong on this one. Stop doubling down.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
23035 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:07 pm to
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I'm not wrong.


Yes you are.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
23035 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:08 pm to
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You don’t even remember what happened because we didn’t clock the ball.

We didn’t get an untimed down. The clock started running on the whistle.

We got a first down to put us in FG range. Runner was down with 1 second left. Clock should’ve stopped to move the chains but the refs incorrectly stopped the game thinking time had run off. So we got them to review. They overturn it and put a second back on the clock. We got the FG team out there due to the replay and snapped it as soon as the whistle blew. (We had to snap it as soon as the whistle blew or it would’ve been halftime.

Kind of bullshite because the only reason we have time to do any of that is the replay but at the time that was the rule.

An untimed down is when they literally don’t even run the clock. Say a penalty happens at the end of the game and the clock is at zero. The offense gets to run a play with no clock.


You got a free play that you shouldn't have is what I remember.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
46272 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:12 pm to
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You got a free play that you shouldn't have is what I remember.

Ok? But that’s not the argument here.

I literally said in my post we shouldn’t have gotten a FG attempt.
This post was edited on 9/4/22 at 11:13 pm
Posted by TideTurf
Member since Sep 2009
3200 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:14 pm to
The play resulted in a first down. Even if his knee was down inbounds, the clock has to stop to move the sticks and spot the ball. The timeout gave LSU time to get there play in and on the ball. Plus it resets everything. Had that timeout not been called everything would have moved faster.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46272 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:14 pm to
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LSU wouldn’t never had time to clock it with 1 seconds left if ref calls player down inbounds correctly.

LSU would’ve just run a play instead of clocking it.

Technically he was down with 2 seconds also.
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:16 pm to
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Had that timeout not been called everything would have moved faster.




The timeout would not have been called if he was ruled inbounds

So that is pretty irrelevant
Posted by VolNavy98
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:18 pm to
Even then, I don’t think they would have been able to get all 11 players set in 2 seconds to run play.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:27 pm to
FSU called a timeout...
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14551 posts
Posted on 9/4/22 at 11:27 pm to
Florida state literally called a timeout after LSU lined up.
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