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re: The new "Blue Bloods" of College Football. Let's make Criteria and a list.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 6:51 am to Sun God
Posted on 7/8/20 at 6:51 am to Sun God
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A which teams are which characters in The Great Gatsby thread is something in which I’d definitely partake
It would be, even if an SEC version. Unfortunately, Bama is most likely more Tom than Daisy Buchanan.
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:10 am to magildachunks
The whole concept of "Blue Blood" was created when TV had 3-4 channels. Back in those days you were only going to see Michigan, USC, Notre Dame, Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, Ohio State and may a few other programs. When a recruit only saw those programs on TV that's where they wanted to go an play so these schools go the lions share of the nations best players.
There was also the Bowl Alliances. The bowls had insane control and it was a huge deal going to a bowl when you had 10-15 Bowls. I remember 8 win teams not making a bowl.
Now, thanks to TV, 30 bowls, a playoff, Conference TV networks the term "blue blood" is meaningless.
There was also the Bowl Alliances. The bowls had insane control and it was a huge deal going to a bowl when you had 10-15 Bowls. I remember 8 win teams not making a bowl.
Now, thanks to TV, 30 bowls, a playoff, Conference TV networks the term "blue blood" is meaningless.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:28 am to CU_Tigers4life
quote:to a great extent, I agree. But, each of those schools you mentioned (+ Nebraska) carries a great deal of prestige and influence. A lot of their blood status began to form before TV, when the bowls were even more select and prestigious. It is evident even today; no matter how bad these teams have been over stretches, they dominate the CFB landscapes and their poll bias is evident any time they have a glimmer of success.
Now, thanks to TV, 30 bowls, a playoff, Conference TV networks the term "blue blood" is meaningless.
Their successes and legendary coaches span generations. And, fans and teams genuinely get excited to play away games in their storied stadiums. Like it or not, they are CFB royalty.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:31 am to C W
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Other than Alabama, Clemson has been in more playoffs than any team and like Alabama has won twice. LSU has been only once so obviously Clemson has been a better program in the last 5 years than LSU
Clemson has an easier schedule then LSU. That’s it
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:32 am to AllbyMyRelf
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case could certainly be made for Mississippi State
We arent talking about below average teams
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 7:33 am
Posted on 7/8/20 at 7:37 am to Che Boludo
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Their successes and legendary coaches span generations. And, fans and teams genuinely get excited to play away games in their storied stadiums. Like it or not, they are CFB royalty.
Perhaps older fans feel that way but I don't think newer generations care about the history lesson. As Janet Jackson's song says: "What Have You Done For Me Lately?"
I'm in a little older generation and there was a time when watching USC, Notre Dame, Nebraska and the other "traditional" Blue Bloods was must see TV even if your own team wasn't one of them. It was a big event. It's just not like that anymore.
Not counting my team Clemson, I don't have anymore or less desire to watch USC vs Notre Dame than I do UGa Vs. Florida...It's all about what the best game is.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:03 am to CU_Tigers4life
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Now, thanks to TV, 30 bowls, a playoff, Conference TV networks the term "blue blood" is meaningless.
Bowl tie-ins make it meaningless too. Remember 1998 K-State going to the Alamo Bowl and 2004 Cal to the Holiday Bowl? I don't think that would happen today, but at the time not being traditional powers hurt them
Posted on 7/8/20 at 8:03 am to Che Boludo
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Nope, you'd have to pick a different metaphor, as blood status does not change. If a royal owns and empire or become debt-ridden and destitute, he is still royal.
Yep,Minnesota,Army ànd Teñnesse have all become "destitute"and would have been considered blue bloods in the 50's
Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:25 am to magildachunks
Sorry Baw, but LSU is the UConn (basketball) in football. Y’all not Blueblood.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:02 am to magildachunks
I'll go by multiple national titles in the last 40 years. Also has a large fan base and stadium, and relevant in multiple decades.
Alabama
Oklahoma
Ohio State
Florida
LSU
Auburn - Counting 04
FSU
Nebraska - Falling off some but still so good for awhile they stay
USC
Penn State - Ish
Alabama
Oklahoma
Ohio State
Florida
LSU
Auburn - Counting 04
FSU
Nebraska - Falling off some but still so good for awhile they stay
USC
Penn State - Ish
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 10:03 am
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:07 am to RD Dawg
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Yep,Minnesota,Army ànd Teñnesse have all become "destitute"and would have been considered blue bloods in the 50's
Army not so much. They had a good run from 1942-1946 for obvious reasons. If it hadn't have been for World War II, Army doesn't win the national title in 1944 or 1945. Minnesota won in 1936, 1940, and 1941 but didn't do anything again until 1960. Tennessee didn't win its first poll national championship until 1951.
The "Blue Blood" status wasn't created until the 60s and 70s with the advent of sports television. At that particular time, the blue bloods we know and love today were dominant and thus on TV quite often. They would appear in front of a nationally televised audience two or three times a year while other programs were lucky to appear just once.
Alabama, USC, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Texas, Oklahoma, and Nebraska all won national championships during this period while also consistently appearing in the final AP Top 5-10. Michigan didn't win one but they were constantly in contention during the 70s.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:12 am to magildachunks
21st Century Bluebloods:
Alabama
Clemson
LSU
Ohio State
Oklahoma
These five programs have separated and sustained at or near the championship level. Florida and USC could work their way back in with good runs.
Alabama
Clemson
LSU
Ohio State
Oklahoma
These five programs have separated and sustained at or near the championship level. Florida and USC could work their way back in with good runs.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:53 am to Mithridates6
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It should start in the postwar era. Michigan and ND might still be in it, but not by much
Agree with this. Teams that were successful from 1950-1979 and have mostly maintained relevance since are where you find your blue bloods.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:05 am to turnpiketiger
I get what you're saying but bro, I'm telling you, this is the definitive list. These are the schools people talk about throughout this country in cfb coaching circles. These are the programs we model ourselves after. These are the brands that everyone knows.
Alabama
Ohio State
Oklahoma
USC
Notre Dame
LSU
Texas
Michigan
Florida
Florida St
Brand improving
Georgia
Clemson
Oregon
Brand nearly diminished
The U
It is what it is.
Some of these rednecks around here arguing otherwise have never left their grimy trailers in the south and have zero pulse on reality.
Alabama
Ohio State
Oklahoma
USC
Notre Dame
LSU
Texas
Michigan
Florida
Florida St
Brand improving
Georgia
Clemson
Oregon
Brand nearly diminished
The U
It is what it is.
Some of these rednecks around here arguing otherwise have never left their grimy trailers in the south and have zero pulse on reality.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:17 am to RollTide1987
What’s funny? Nobody gives a shite about who did what in football prior to the 80s at best. Ask anyone under 40 (the vast majority of the fan base) what college teams did what prior to 1985 and none of them could tell you anything about it. Why? Because few people gave a frick back then and even less people care now.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:19 am to atrueamerican
I get what you are saying, but Michigan shouldn't be on that list.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:24 am to atrueamerican
Brand improving, lumping Oregon in with Clemson
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:28 am to magildachunks
New Blue Bloods is an oxymoron.
Posted on 7/8/20 at 12:09 pm to CP3LSU25
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Clemson has an easier schedule then LSU. That’s it
No argument that Clemson has an easier path to the Playoffs than LSU or any SEC team. The point is Clemson has more than held its own in the CFP while playing against the best programs in the country:
2-0 vs tOSU
2-2 vs Bama
1-0 vs OU
1-0 vs ND
0-1 vs LSU
Clemson’s six CFP wins is tied with Bama for #1 in the Playoff era...next closest team has two wins.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 7/8/20 at 1:07 pm to atrueamerican
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These are the schools people talk about throughout this country in cfb coaching circles.
Please enlighten us on these coaching circles that you are included in. You don’t know Jack kid.
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