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The new "Blue Bloods" of College Football. Let's make Criteria and a list.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 4:55 pm
For Criteria, mainly, how far back do we go to start? Twenty years years (Beginning of the new century} or thirty years? (Sorry Georgia. Forty years is too far back for this. No NC boost for you.)
How many on the list? Five to Ten at most? How long ago must they have been truly relevant, as in continued NC's or competing for them.
And then let's throw out some nominations and why they belong.
I'll say we start in 1990. So here's who I have on the list:
Bama: Obviously
LSU: Only team besides Bama to win more than two NC's since 2000. 3 NC, streak of 8-win seasons at 20.
Florida: 3 NC's since 1990. Still a Powerhouse even though they had a few down years earlier this decade.
Ohio State: 2 NC since 2000. Dominates Big Ten. Easy pick here.
Oklahoma: 1 NC, played for numerous more. Dominates Big 12.
That's about who I have. I guess a case could be made for USC and FSU, but recent years make me not want to pull the trigger.
Clemson is too new to the table. Yes, they are a great program now, but continued success needs to happen for them to make the cut, not a five year span.
WHo y'all got?
How many on the list? Five to Ten at most? How long ago must they have been truly relevant, as in continued NC's or competing for them.
And then let's throw out some nominations and why they belong.
I'll say we start in 1990. So here's who I have on the list:
Bama: Obviously
LSU: Only team besides Bama to win more than two NC's since 2000. 3 NC, streak of 8-win seasons at 20.
Florida: 3 NC's since 1990. Still a Powerhouse even though they had a few down years earlier this decade.
Ohio State: 2 NC since 2000. Dominates Big Ten. Easy pick here.
Oklahoma: 1 NC, played for numerous more. Dominates Big 12.
That's about who I have. I guess a case could be made for USC and FSU, but recent years make me not want to pull the trigger.
Clemson is too new to the table. Yes, they are a great program now, but continued success needs to happen for them to make the cut, not a five year span.
WHo y'all got?
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Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:02 pm to magildachunks
Bama is the only Blue Blood in the SEC in football. Kentucky is the only one in basketball.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:02 pm to magildachunks
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I'll say we start in 1990.
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LSU
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:05 pm to RollTide1987
If Florida and Oklahoma count by those metrics, LSU certainly does.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:06 pm to magildachunks
You should probably call them the NEW Bloods
Get it? Do you get it?
Get it? Do you get it?
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:07 pm to magildachunks
Well, "new" and "Blue Blood" are kind of an oxymoron, since a Blue Blood indicates a historically good program. But this is actually a pretty good thread idea, so I'll play.
In the SEC, my votes go to Alabama, Florida, and LSU. The trophies mean everything, and those three schools have them. Florida took a sucker punch in the early to mid 2010s, but its return to a perennial 10-win power means they've earned their keep.
LSU has been unbelievably good since 2000. And no explanation needed for Alabama.
I'm leaving Clemson out, because their history is not established enough. They only experienced significant success in the past 5 years.
Oklahoma has trouble bringing home the big one, but it's hard to not call them a Blue Blood. I say they're in.
Ohio State is in.
Who else am I missing?
In the SEC, my votes go to Alabama, Florida, and LSU. The trophies mean everything, and those three schools have them. Florida took a sucker punch in the early to mid 2010s, but its return to a perennial 10-win power means they've earned their keep.
LSU has been unbelievably good since 2000. And no explanation needed for Alabama.
I'm leaving Clemson out, because their history is not established enough. They only experienced significant success in the past 5 years.
Oklahoma has trouble bringing home the big one, but it's hard to not call them a Blue Blood. I say they're in.
Ohio State is in.
Who else am I missing?
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:08 pm to magildachunks
It should start in the postwar era. Michigan and ND might still be in it, but not by much
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:09 pm to magildachunks
Blue blood isn’t about success. It’s about prestige you’re born with.
I could become a trillionaire and they still wouldn’t let me join Comus in Nola. The blue bloods are the blue bloods.
I could become a trillionaire and they still wouldn’t let me join Comus in Nola. The blue bloods are the blue bloods.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:10 pm to magildachunks
Let's be honest, blue blood is a term irrelevant teams use to feel relevant.
Texas, Notre Dame, A1abana, Nebraska, etc.,
It's hard to celebrate winning a bowl of oranges - so they dwell on ancient history.
While the teams at the top of the game (LSU, Clemson) are focused on dominating NOW - not THEN.
Texas, Notre Dame, A1abana, Nebraska, etc.,
It's hard to celebrate winning a bowl of oranges
- so they dwell on ancient history. While the teams at the top of the game (LSU, Clemson) are focused on dominating NOW - not THEN.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:14 pm to magildachunks
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Blue Bloods
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:14 pm to Leto II
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Bama is the only Blue Blood in the SEC in football. Kentucky is the only one in basketball.
And this is the correct answer for anyone listening.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:15 pm to scionofadrunk
Power 5 Rankings - Since 2000
Winning Percentage
1. Ohio State (207-43) (82.8%)
2. Oklahoma (219-49) (81.7%)
3. LSU (202-59) (77.4%)
4. Georgia (198-67) (77.4%)
5. Alabama (182-63) (74.3%)
6. Clemson (196-70) (73.7%)
7. Oregon (188-70) (72.9%)
8. TCU (182-71) (71.9%)
9. Southern Cal (174-71) (71.0%)
10. Wisconsin (188-77) (70.9%)
11. Florida (181-76) (70.4%)
11. Texas (181-76) (70.4%)
13. Virginia Tech (183-81) (69.3%)
14. Florida State (169-81) (67.6%)
15. Auburn (175-84) (67.6%)
National Titles
1. Alabama (5)
2. LSU (3)
3. Clemson (2)
3. Florida (2)
3. Ohio St (2)
3. USC (2)
7. Auburn (1)
7. Miami (1)
7. Oklahoma (1)
7. Texas (1)
7. Florida St (1)
Playoff Appearances
1. Alabama (5)
1. Clemson (5)
3. Oklahoma (4)
4. Ohio State (3)
5. Florida St (1)
5. Georgia (1)
5. LSU (1)
5. Michigan State (1)
5. Notre Dame (1)
5. Oregon (1)
5. Washington (1)
Playoff Wins
1. Alabama (6)
1. Clemson (6)
3. LSU (2)
3. Ohio State (2)
5. Georgia (1)
5. Oregon (1)
I think since 2000 your list of "ELITE" programs would be
- Alabama
- LSU
- Ohio State
- Clemson
The 2 I'm not sure about are
- Oklahoma
- Florida
Oklahoma won a national title in the first year of this timeline, and they've been to 4 playoffs and basically been dominated in 3 of them and have yet to win a single playoff game.
Florida was great from 2000-2009, but they haven't been a national title threat since then. Kind of similar to USC.
Winning Percentage
1. Ohio State (207-43) (82.8%)
2. Oklahoma (219-49) (81.7%)
3. LSU (202-59) (77.4%)
4. Georgia (198-67) (77.4%)
5. Alabama (182-63) (74.3%)
6. Clemson (196-70) (73.7%)
7. Oregon (188-70) (72.9%)
8. TCU (182-71) (71.9%)
9. Southern Cal (174-71) (71.0%)
10. Wisconsin (188-77) (70.9%)
11. Florida (181-76) (70.4%)
11. Texas (181-76) (70.4%)
13. Virginia Tech (183-81) (69.3%)
14. Florida State (169-81) (67.6%)
15. Auburn (175-84) (67.6%)
National Titles
1. Alabama (5)
2. LSU (3)
3. Clemson (2)
3. Florida (2)
3. Ohio St (2)
3. USC (2)
7. Auburn (1)
7. Miami (1)
7. Oklahoma (1)
7. Texas (1)
7. Florida St (1)
Playoff Appearances
1. Alabama (5)
1. Clemson (5)
3. Oklahoma (4)
4. Ohio State (3)
5. Florida St (1)
5. Georgia (1)
5. LSU (1)
5. Michigan State (1)
5. Notre Dame (1)
5. Oregon (1)
5. Washington (1)
Playoff Wins
1. Alabama (6)
1. Clemson (6)
3. LSU (2)
3. Ohio State (2)
5. Georgia (1)
5. Oregon (1)
I think since 2000 your list of "ELITE" programs would be
- Alabama
- LSU
- Ohio State
- Clemson
The 2 I'm not sure about are
- Oklahoma
- Florida
Oklahoma won a national title in the first year of this timeline, and they've been to 4 playoffs and basically been dominated in 3 of them and have yet to win a single playoff game.
Florida was great from 2000-2009, but they haven't been a national title threat since then. Kind of similar to USC.
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
So you're telling me I'm 100% right. Thanks, George!
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:24 pm to Mithridates6
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ND might still be in it
They have won seven national championships since 1945. They would most certainly still be in it.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:27 pm to magildachunks
There are so many different definitions of blue blood out there that it's tough to nail down any one set of criteria. But, using 2000 as a benchmark for currently successful teams makes a lot sense considering the age of the players and what teams they grew up on being successful. Obviously the turn of the century is another reason.
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 5:46 pm to RollTide1987
Yeah and Michigan does have a very good winning pct in the last few decades, just not much hardware aside from Big Ten titles. 1970 seems like a good demarcation line since integration was becoming more common and more games were televised. Winning pct since 1970 You'd need to add in other qualifiers like SoS and postseason success
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:30 pm to magildachunks
Other than Alabama, Clemson has been in more playoffs than any team and like Alabama has won twice. LSU has been only once so obviously Clemson has been a better program in the last 5 years than LSU
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:34 pm to C W
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Clemson has been a better program in the last 5 years than LSU
There's no arguing that. Clemson has really benefitted from the ACC basically being a group of five conference. I would have liked to have seen them play a tougher schedule. I'm not even saying they couldn't have done the same thing. It just would have been fun to watch them navigate a better schedule.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:38 pm to TigerLunatik
Yeah, Clemson is set up for success for the foreseeable future as the have no completion in the ACC. Will be in the playoff yearly. Dabo has that machine rolling
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:46 pm to SummerOfGeorge
If you are going back to 2000, add in appearances in the BCS Championship game, since it was the precursor of the playoff, and teams had to be ranked in the top 2 to play.
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