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re: The history of the South is something a football coach shouldn’t use for trolling

Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:55 pm to
Or the writer asked a question about ole miss and he answered. Shouldn’t all the anger be directed at the question not the answer? As far as lsus past, it’s not as overt as ole miss.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
7764 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:36 pm to
In reality, there's nothing "more racist" about Oxford vs almost any other college town. But perception often trumps reality and that's what Lane is talking about. Case in point (the MS Paint guy from Shaggy Bevo after OU and Texas joined the SEC):



LSU Tigers may reference a confederate army unit but their mascot for decades has been a generic tiger. Until very recently, OM's mascot was literally an old white guy dressed as a plantation owner.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12848 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:29 pm to
Thing is, a black athlete has a much better chance of not being involved with violence in Oxford. Much, much safer place.
Posted by Tjtennispro
ATL
Member since Feb 2018
355 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:35 pm to
I was recruited to play tennis at Ole Miss. took a visit in 97 and attended a football game against Auburn. The amount of confederate flags in the stadium was shocking!

I was fine with it since my High School was the Rebels and we had them too but my gosh the amount at that football game was crazy!
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:06 pm to
As Sidewalk said, you're talking reality, not perception. Ole Miss has had a number of overt symbols throughout their history associated with the confederacy and in some peoples' minds, racism. None of those people remember Lora Hinton. They do remember Colonel Reb and confederate flags being waved all over the place. I'm sure if I did an AI search on UGA's ties to the confederacy right now I'd get a few hits, but no one would remember it.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62186 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 6:29 am to
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It isn’t a secret. And it’s also a fricking Tiger and not a guy dressed up like a plantation owner


uBut Lane said that one thing that hurts Ole Miss is that they use the monkier.."Ole Miss". It's only a name. Yes. It's a Tiger. It's a tiger that was named after a Civil War battle group fighting to maintain slavery.

Now, I don't care personally and think the whole "We have to clean up sports nicknames!" thing is about as stupid as it gets.

Take your purple and gold glasses off, though, and ask yourself....."Does Lane Kiffin have a history of trolling? Could he possibly be trolling Ole Miss?" I mean seriously. What kid lets his grandparents choose which school he will go to to play football? It just doesn't happen. Ever. Much less enough to impact recruiting.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62186 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 6:36 am to
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I would assume they asked him some question about differences in recruiting and that popped into his mind.

I could see that. But a sane person doesn't say everything that pops into his mind. Look at this board. We have way too many people that do that...but this board isn't exactly a bastion of sanity, either.

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Exactly, Ole Miss had to make those changes because there is a perception of racism there. That doesn't exist at LSU.

I can't imagine anybody having a perception of racism about Ole Miss in this day and time. I mean the entire south has a perception of racism, do we not? Rightfully or wrongfully, I have talked to black friends that moved fro up north and they have told me they were nervous about moving to the south. They said they were shocked by their reception, and they thought there was more racism up north than in the south. But, somehow, some way, the SEC still manages to get top athletes.

Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62186 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 6:46 am to
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You missed his entire point. This is about perception, not an argument of who’s the most racist school. If you polled people from outside the southeast which school is the most racist, how do you think that polling would look?


Those are good points. However...now ask yourself. Outside of the south what is the perception people have of the south? That we are uneducated, slow, and racist. Somehow we manage to get football players to come down to the south to play football. Players just don't buy into and make an issue out of what happened 150 years ago when making decisions on where to go to school. Could some? Sure, But they are few and far between.

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If anyone other than Lane Kiffin made the comment, you wouldn’t disagree
hard to say because it WAS Lane Kiffin that made the comment. But ask yourself. Why do people raise their eyebrows about Lane Kiffin making the comments? It's because of the past years events. And, because Lane Kiffin makes it a habit of trolling and taking shots at people.

It reminds me of the Oakland Raiders from years ago. They fostered an image of being outlaws...rough...rule breakers..then they complained because they had a lot of penalties thrown against them. Sometimes, fairly or not...you get what you ask for.

Y'all say Ole Miss is a perception problem because of past actions. Fair enough. Lane Kiffin has a perception because of past actions. Did he mean to take a shot at Ole Miss? Nobody knows but Lane Kiffin. But his past actions of trolling indicates that is exactly what he was doing.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62186 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 6:49 am to
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I was recruited to play tennis at Ole Miss. took a visit in 97 and attended a football game against Auburn. The amount of confederate flags in the stadium was shocking!


They were the Ole Miss Rebels! Why would it be shocking to see confederate flags at a game with the Rebels are the mascots!

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I was fine with it since my High School was the Rebels and we had them too but my gosh the amount at that football game was crazy!

The difference in high school and college. Did you consider your high school overtly racist because they flew confederate flags, or did you understand based on what the school mascot is?

Out of curiosity...is your old school still called the Rebels?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62186 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 6:55 am to
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As Sidewalk said, you're talking reality, not perception.


True. And what is the perception of Lane Kiffin? A guy who trolls continuously? A guy who has had trouble at ever stop he has coached at?

Now you should understand why so many on this board is ragging on LSU for hiring him.

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They do remember Colonel Reb and confederate flags being waved all over the place.
Before the whole country went nuts about political correctness having a mascot called the Rebels was not an issue. It's a mascot, not a call for slavery to return. Just like the faux outrage over Indians, Chiefs, Redskins etc being used as mascots. The horror! Next PETA will start screaming about using animals as nicknames and we will see Bears, Tigers, Badgers , Eagles and Bulldog nicknames being pressured to change.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26312 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:09 am to
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Here comes the gumps to rescue poor little ole miss again. The whole circle jerk you guys have going on is so adorable.

Ever notice that there are no other programs in SEC that claim any kind of kinship or camaraderie with LSU?

Kinda makes you think.
Posted by BebeLudwig7
Denham Springs
Member since Mar 2026
210 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:41 am to
Having camaraderie with other dudes is not normal Aggie, sorry.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
13688 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:52 am to
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He lost by 10 points back in 1990, lost by 39 points in his bid for governor a year later, and never came close to doing anything politically again.


He got over 60% of the LA white vote in 1990 and won the Republican primary.

A year later, he qualified for the runoff after finishing second, just 2 percent off the leader's tally.

In the runoff he lost by less than 23 percent and still got a majority of the LA white vote.

Not sure where your 39 percent thing is coming from.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
71071 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:13 am to
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Y'all say Ole Miss is a perception problem because of past actions. Fair enough. Lane Kiffin has a perception because of past actions. Did he mean to take a shot at Ole Miss? Nobody knows but Lane Kiffin. But his past actions of trolling indicates that is exactly what he was doing.

I doubt anyone will disagree with that.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27260 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:19 am to
It's hard to recruit to Ole Miss for decades because no one wanted to play for Ole Miss.

Everything else was used as an excuse.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
2056 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:53 am to
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UGA's ties to the confederacy right now I'd get a few hits, but no one would remember it.


The problem is that some people try to manipulate history to create political talking points.

The original 10' by 5' Confederate Constitution is stored in a copper tube at UGA's Hargrett Rare Book and Manuscript Library.
It hasn't been put out on displayed for a very very very long time.
In reality, it is only about 5% different than the US Constitution. I.E. The president was elected for six years instead of four years.

In contrast, LSU has a different type of origin as it was founded as The Louisiana Seminary of Learning and Military Academy in Alexandria, Louisiana. William Tecumseh Sherman was the first president because he met the criteria of being a USMA grad and a practicing Roman Catholic.

The irony with what became LSU in 1860 was that it enrolled a few Black students who were sons of Black slave owners and had at least one Black faculty member named B. Jarreau. And even the social events held during 1860 were integrated.

That, of course, all changed after the war...

I would hate to think that Lane would try to rekindle tension for recruiting purposes, but in any case, it wasn't a pot that needed stirring.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27361 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:55 am to
This bitch is still melting. LMAO.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108850 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
23972 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 1:58 pm to
You have lots of people here who say players don’t care about what happened before they were alive. They say that players don’t care about results or tradition before the turn of the century. But then those same people claim players do care about what happened in the 1960s. Quite the conundrum.
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