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re: The history of the South is something a football coach shouldn’t use for trolling

Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:35 pm to
Who are you and why do you keep following me around?


Posted by EPORE
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:45 pm to
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AHM21

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Unless LSU changes their name

woke arse nonsense---like the Washington Redskins? I agree with you that Kiffen is clearly making these statements to put Ole Miss in a bad light, not because he's bitter, but because he just wants to frick with them and it helps in recruiting. Stop with the name change bullshite though, I mean my God stop the wokeness.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62186 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:10 pm to
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He didn't criticize the history, he said the history made it harder to recruit.



That's cool. But again. I was responding to this post:

Fair or not - Ole Miss has a much larger perception of racism and entitlement which I’m sure is an issue with some recruits.

My point being is he still coached there for 6 years, but he finds it necessary to make an issue of it now?
Look, I don't think it is unfair to say that Kiffin likes to wind people up. he lives to troll and when he says stuff like this it comes with bad optics on his part. I said it once and I will say it again...I think LSU did well with the hire, but with Kiffin comes a lot of baggage. When people say he leaves wreckage in his wake everywhere he goes, it is not unfair. It is what it is.

If you have a confrontation with an idiot, it could be his fault. If you have confrontations with idiots your entire life...you might be the idiot.
To clarify...if Kiffin had problems at one school it could be the schools fault, but he has troubles at every school he is at. LSU got a great offensive mind. But there should be a certain expectation of trouble that comes with him.

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You said he "did not criticize the history, but that the history made it harder to recruit." Isn't that in and of itself a criticism of the history?
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 1:12 pm
Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:29 pm to
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Who are you and why do you keep following me around?


We all say the same thing about you. You are the horse fly of this forum
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
71071 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:02 pm to
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We all


Who is "we"?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
71071 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:06 pm to
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That's cool. But again. I was responding to this post:

Fair or not - Ole Miss has a much larger perception of racism and entitlement which I’m sure is an issue with some recruits.

My point being is he still coached there for 6 years, but he finds it necessary to make an issue of it now?


If you're actively trying to recruit kids to Ole Miss, why would you come out in the media and say it's tough to get kids to come to Ole Miss because of the racial perceptions?

That would just draw more awareness to the issue you're trying to hide, in a sense.

Did Kiffin really have a problem with kids not wanting to come to Ole Miss because of the perception? I don't know. Perhaps he's lying.

But that perception does exist, as it relates to Ole Miss so it's at least plausible.
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:24 pm to
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Please share it with me, because news reports obviously don't either, as they say he is criticizing the history of racism at Ole Miss.

However..I am willing to learn. Please explain what his point was, and I will listen.



They have a history. For years they waved confederate flags, sang Dixie and had Colonel Reb as their mascot. They flew the state flag on campus, which used to include a picture of the confederate flag. People protested. None of it offends me, and I don't think they should have abandoned any of it, but Lane's point was, like it or not, that history resonates with older black generations. He wasn't calling them racist.
Posted by Ping Pong
LSU and UVA alum
Member since Aug 2014
6255 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:31 pm to
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Jon Sumrall was the right HC for UF.
yeah, until you realize he's sunbelt Billy v2


Thats what makes him perfect for Florida.

They should be 6-6 or 7-5 every season with a 3-9 season every few years
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
71071 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:32 pm to
It seems like a large portion of this board can't understand that Lane is talking about a perception and not reality.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 3:43 pm to
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he didn't coach at LSU, this thread would have never been created.


That’s a lie and you know it If he was at Alabama and said this y’all would have stormed the rant with Georgia Wallace photos. I understand people being upset at this. Ole Miss went a long way towards correcting perceived image including changing mascots which everyone made fun of them for doing when they did that years ago and even changing the name of the university from ole Miss to university of Mississippi. Lane opened and old wound that he should not have given the state of today’s climate. If he was any where besides LsU yal you’ll have lambasted him but because he’s at LSU yall are good with it.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108850 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:19 pm to
You missed the entire point of the post.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62186 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:23 pm to
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If you're actively trying to recruit kids to Ole Miss, why would you come out in the media and say it's tough to get kids to come to Ole Miss because of the racial perceptions?


You are correct. But Kiffin is the one that said it. He's not trying to recruit kids to Ole Miss.

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But that perception does exist, as it relates to Ole Miss so it's at least plausible.
I guess my point is why say anything. I get he was asked a question, but why say anything. He's not obligated to answer every question that is asked of him, and he would be better served to just say he is glad to be at a proud program like LSU, and would prefer to answer questions about LSU.

I think everybody (Including LSU fans) can all agree that Kiffin is a master troller. He loves to troll. He lives to troll. That's fine, but when you constantly troo, people tend to not take you seriously after awhile. Look at this board. There are some posters on here that nobody will get into a serious conversation with because they troll constantly. IF those posters want to have a serious conversation they must create another alter so people will talk to them.

Hey...I shouldn't have posted. We all defend our coaches and players even when we know they might be wrong...because, well...they are our players and/or coach. Kiffin is a really good coach and has an outstanding grasp of offenses. That's all that should matter to LSU fans. Thing is...when people give a troll attention it only encourages them to troll more, because it gets them what they want. Attention. And I'm ok with that, unless it hurts or shines a negative light on others.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73612 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:27 pm to
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came extremely close to representing them in DC as well.

He lost by 10 points back in 1990, lost by 39 points in his bid for governor a year later, and never came close to doing anything politically again.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
71071 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:29 pm to
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You are correct. But Kiffin is the one that said it. He's not trying to recruit kids to Ole Miss.


Because he's saying things are easier at LSU, he doesn't deal with that there.

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I guess my point is why say anything. I get he was asked a question, but why say anything. He's not obligated to answer every question that is asked of him, and he would be better served to just say he is glad to be at a proud program like LSU, and would prefer to answer questions about LSU.


Because Lane is a massive troll. He's definitely trolling Ole Miss here and I'd say it worked just like he planned.

But like any good troll, what he said was actually true. No one can really argue that there is a perception of racism around Ole Miss. Did that really hinder his recruiting? I don't know. I may have cost him a handful of kids, but I doubt it was a huge detriment.

Despite problems with LSU's history, like any other Southern university, LSU doesn't have that perception. Fair or not, I think New Orleans helps LSU's reputation on the diversity front.

Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62186 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:30 pm to
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They have a history. For years they waved confederate flags, sang Dixie and had Colonel Reb as their mascot. They flew the state flag on campus, which used to include a picture of the confederate flag. People protested. None of it offends me, and I don't think they should have abandoned any of it, but Lane's point was, like it or not, that history resonates with older black generations. He wasn't calling them racist.


Name a single school that does not have a history of racism. Just one. At one time black athletes were not allowed to play in a single predominantly white college. None.

Lora Hinton was the first black football player for LSU in 1971. Think about that. 1971. I remember Lora Hinton playing. I actually did not realize he was LSU's first black football player.

I mean, lets not pretend the entire SEC could have fingers pointing at them for segregation, etc. Was Ole Miss worse than the others? Maybe. I honestly don't know.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
71071 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:33 pm to
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I mean, lets not pretend the entire SEC could have fingers pointing at them for segregation, etc. Was Ole Miss worse than the others? Maybe. I honestly don't know.


Perception doesn't always equal reality.

Alabama gets a bad rap for being a state full of inbreds, the data doesn't really indicate that to be true. But it's still a perception. Ole Miss is fighting a perception, more than actual real racism.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73612 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:34 pm to
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Name a single school that does not have a history of racism. Just one. At one time black athletes were not allowed to play in a single predominantly white college. None.

You missed his entire point. This is about perception, not an argument of who’s the most racist school. If you polled people from outside the southeast which school is the most racist, how do you think that polling would look? The schools you’d have to research to find the connection or the one who was in your face about it for decades? If anyone other than Lane Kiffin made the comment, you wouldn’t disagree
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62186 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:35 pm to
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It seems like a large portion of this board can't understand that Lane is talking about a perception and not reality.


I do, but my question is why bring it up? Honestly...LSU was named after a Southern fighting group of men that was fighting for the protection of slavery. Maybe he should talk about that instead? Would you find it offensive if he started talking about LSU's mascot like he did Ole Miss's? I mean....Ole Miss changed theirs because of questions concerning Col. Reb.

If it were made public the history of LSU's mascot how long do you think it would be before every liberal in the country began screaming about it? And, how long do you honestly believe it would be before LSU changed their mascot from Tigers?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73612 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:37 pm to
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If it were made public the history of LSU's mascot how long do you think it would be before every liberal in the country began screaming about it? And, how long do you honestly believe it would be before LSU changed their mascot from Tigers?

It isn’t a secret. And it’s also a fricking Tiger and not a guy dressed up like a plantation owner
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
71071 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:41 pm to
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I do, but my question is why bring it up?


I would assume they asked him some question about differences in recruiting and that popped into his mind.

Maybe he meant it as a dig at Ole Miss too, maybe it was completely innocent, I don't know.

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LSU was named after a Southern fighting group of men that was fighting for the protection of slavery. Maybe he should talk about that instead? Would you find it offensive if he started talking about LSU's mascot like he did Ole Miss's? I mean....Ole Miss changed theirs because of questions concerning Col. Reb.

If it were made public the history of LSU's mascot how long do you think it would be before every liberal in the country began screaming about it? And, how long do you honestly believe it would be before LSU changed their mascot from Tigers?


Exactly, Ole Miss had to make those changes because there is a perception of racism there. That doesn't exist at LSU.

If some random black kid from California is thinking of going to Ole Miss, I bet he'd get more pushback in his family over going to Ole Miss than he would over LSU. Just because of the perception. That was all Lane said.
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