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Posted on 11/12/12 at 11:50 pm to FootballNostradamus
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It’s been a buzzsaw of a conference where week-in and week-out teams embark on WWIII just to survive.
Well, yeah. That's the whole point of saying on any given Saturday in the SEC. It's not good enough to just beat LSU and breathe easy because you will play another good team next week. We aren't solid because we have one or two untouchables. We are who we are BECAUSE a team like aTm might just up and beat the current big boy in their house.
What you are citing as a weakness is the whole fricking point as to why it is a strong conference. Feel free to come back after bowl season and crow; until then, you got nothing but the same shite all of us have heard, well, as long as I've been alive.
Aside from winning 8 of 14 BCS crowns, we have more wins in BCS games at 16 than any other conference. Three of those championships went to undefeated teams; the other 5 all dropped one at some point to another SEC team and still beat the best anyone else had to offer with the exception of last year.
Until one of your Big 12 or PAC 12 video game Os steps up and beats an SEC team in the big dance, all you just have is stats and a bunch of associative property of football B.S. Oklahoma, Ohio State, Florida State, Oregon, and Texas were all tested and found wanting.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 12:07 am to FootballNostradamus
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The most glaring point this game did was only reinforce how much Oklahoma State got screwed last year
I didn't hear you. can you repeat that?
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 12:08 am
Posted on 11/13/12 at 1:01 am to FootballNostradamus
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FootballNostradamus
You're fricking stupid.. The top teams in the SEC have beaten each other.. No OOC losses. And yes, TAMU is much improved from coaching/JFF alone. I would easily put the top teams from the SEC up against the top teams from any other conference..
Posted on 11/13/12 at 5:09 am to FootballNostradamus
Bama's defense just got pumped up too much this year.This defense isn't nearly as talented as last year.Bama would have easily beaten Ok St.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 5:50 am to mbogo
Great topic, and I think the OP has a lot of merit. He just goes too far.
The myth about SEC being so dominant we are untouchable is a myth. And yes, a very good spread offense can be successful in the SEC - one would think Urban Meyer proved that. "SEC speed", "we beat ourselves up", etc is not false, it's just overblown.
But let's not replace one myth with another. The Big 12 offenses scoring 70 points a game aren't coming in doing the same.
Alabama was never invincible, A&M is a very good team that played a mistake free game. It's not that complicated - very good teams beat each other when they play 5 or 6 times - that's the whole point of comparing schedules.
The myth about SEC being so dominant we are untouchable is a myth. And yes, a very good spread offense can be successful in the SEC - one would think Urban Meyer proved that. "SEC speed", "we beat ourselves up", etc is not false, it's just overblown.
But let's not replace one myth with another. The Big 12 offenses scoring 70 points a game aren't coming in doing the same.
Alabama was never invincible, A&M is a very good team that played a mistake free game. It's not that complicated - very good teams beat each other when they play 5 or 6 times - that's the whole point of comparing schedules.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:03 am to Crimson Legend
Bama actually outgained the Aggies after a horrid first quarter..it was 24-9 after that and as bad as we played (not taking ANYTHING away from A&M we got beat fair and square) we had a real shot to win at the end.
Manziel played lights out.I don't think the Oregon QB can do what he does and give Saban that much time to get ready and see what happens.
Last year's Alabama D destroys Okie State.
Manziel played lights out.I don't think the Oregon QB can do what he does and give Saban that much time to get ready and see what happens.
Last year's Alabama D destroys Okie State.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:18 am to Baloo
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because A&M, a team that's been on the cusp, hired a good coach and is now en route to finishing 3rd in the SEC West.
Yeah. That mythos huh? A team that would win the Big XII this year is finishing 3rd in its own division in the SEC. Glad to see the OP look like a dumbass
Posted on 11/13/12 at 7:41 am to LuciusSulla
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Well, yeah. That's the whole point of saying on any given Saturday in the SEC. It's not good enough to just beat LSU and breathe easy becamichiganuse you will play another good team next week. We aren't solid because we have one or two untouchables. We are who we are BECAUSE a team like aTm might just up and beat the current big boy in their house.
In the past years you could make the above statement but no longer is it a gauntlet like you say it is. What in Bama's schedule says week in and week out its tough?
MIchigan- ok at best
W. Kentucky- shite
Arkansas - shite
FAU - shite
Ole Miss- shite
Missouri - shite
Tennesee - shite
Miss. St. - shite
LSU - good
A&M - good
W. Carolina - shite
Auburn - worse than shite
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:38 am to FootballNostradamus
You are wrong. Being in the SEC actually made them play like an SEC team. That is all. 
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:42 am to FootballNostradamus
Go back to Orangebloods, longhorn. You ain't fooling anybody.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:55 am to FootballNostradamus
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Using a basic “Big XII offense”, a freshmen-led team scored 3 straight TDs and was 15 of 16 to start the game passing. Texas A&M did exactly what any other Big XII team would have done in the SEC on offense.
I strongly disagree with this. The key to A&M's transition to the SEC, the more I think about it, on offense is our O-line.
Without a good line, you're screwed in the SEC. It still amazes me, as I watch games, how much bigger the lines are in this conference. Other Big XII teams don't have the O line we do. That is a big key to this year. Without the time they give JFF a lot of our receivers wouldn't be open. He wouldn't be able to scramble. And our running backs wouldn't be averaging the yards per carry that they are averaging.
Defensively, we have a decent D-line (albeit with no depth), decent LBs, and subpar secondary. I do agree the SEC needs to concentrate more on its offenses while keeping defenses as they are.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:59 am to BigD Ag
One more thing, look at the Cotton Bowl as an example. It is what the Big XII #2 v SEC #3 or something like that.
Go back and look at the results. Since 2004 only Mizzou has won the Cotton bowl. Can we count that as an SEC win now? ;)
So obviously the Big XII wasn't as good as the SEC and still isn't anywhere close to it.
This TAMU team would be wiping the floor with the Big XII this year. Keep in mind, last year TAMU was favored in 11 of 12 games. That sleepy Sherm took a big dump on the University last year doesn't mean the talent wasn't there. King Cobra Sumlin just knows how to coach college.
Go back and look at the results. Since 2004 only Mizzou has won the Cotton bowl. Can we count that as an SEC win now? ;)
So obviously the Big XII wasn't as good as the SEC and still isn't anywhere close to it.
This TAMU team would be wiping the floor with the Big XII this year. Keep in mind, last year TAMU was favored in 11 of 12 games. That sleepy Sherm took a big dump on the University last year doesn't mean the talent wasn't there. King Cobra Sumlin just knows how to coach college.
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Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:05 am to FootballNostradamus
not reading the whole thread, but the OP is bullshite. Every few years a player is good enough to take the conference by storm. Cam did it, Tebow did it, and now JFF is doing it. Until Texas A&M sustains that level of success, the jury is still out on if they have arrived in the SEC, or if they just have 1 player who is playing out of his mind
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:08 am to FootballNostradamus
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Who knows what would have happened if A&M would have had Swope when they played UF and LSU. He torched Bama and is the fastest white guy in the country.
FBN, check out this video:
LSU/TAMU Final Play
Swope, "the fastest white guy in the country", is the guy that gets lit up by Simon causing the fumble to end the game.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:18 am to FootballNostradamus
Just wow. An SEC team beating an SEC team proves that the SEC is overrated. Inscrutable logic. 
Posted on 11/13/12 at 10:04 am to H-Town Tiger
Let's just accept the fact that Texas A&M is now one of the best teams in the country. I'm glad they are in the SEC. The SEC is much better for it.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 10:56 am to bhart99
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Which is why the 2 best teams in the nation will be playing for the national championship come Jan. Because they went undefeated in the perspective conferences beating all the best teams in the conference. If Bama Or UGA wins the SEC they can't make that statement.
Your dumb...
Posted on 11/13/12 at 10:59 am to FootballNostradamus
can any big12 team come in and beat Bama?
ok. and LSU?
and Florida?
and Texas A&M?
concerned now? shut your fricking mouth.
ok. and LSU?
and Florida?
and Texas A&M?
concerned now? shut your fricking mouth.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 11:08 am to FootballNostradamus
We should have done so much better. We had 5 leads at the half that we are all by more than a TD and 4 of them were by double digits. We very well should have been 11-1 if we had a competent coaching staff. So to say we were a mid big12 team last year is just looking at the surface
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