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re: Thanks Texas A&M for Debunking the SEC Myth
Posted on 11/12/12 at 3:58 pm to hendersonshands
Posted on 11/12/12 at 3:58 pm to hendersonshands
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It was a 13 point game against one of the most dominant regular season teams in recent memory
Yes, that meaningless touchdown Oregon scored with 13 seconds left in the game against our second stringers totally made the game feel close. It was an arse-kicking.
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You read it all of the time on here, these high powered offenses would never work in the SEC.
Link?
I mean, it's not like Auburn or Florida ran the spread and won a national title or anything. If you think a high-powered offense can't work in the SEC, you clearly haven't watched SEC football over the past decade. Because it HAS worked.
Citing other people's insane ramblings does not justify your own. If you think A&M has "debunked the myth" that the SEC is the best conference, then you're just as silly as the people you claim are so dumb.
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 3:59 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:they did have swope when they played LSU.
Who knows what would have happened if A&M would have had Swope when they played UF and LSU.
he had 10 catches for 81 yards, but you are Nostrodamus, so you knew that.
and he played vs. Florida...5 catches for 16 yards.
This post was edited on 11/12/12 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:00 pm to Tiger1242
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WTF are you talking about? They only scored what 29 on Saturday?
19 on LSU
17 on UF
30 on OLE MISS...............
yea they're tearing everyone to shreads
I'm an SEC homer by no means, but he's disproving his own point. He's claiming A & M is coming in and just destroying teams when no one thought they would. Well, they beat Bama, but then they lost to LSU and Florida. These teams all tend to beat up on each other.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:01 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Yea it's been impressive the way A&M has been dismantling the SEC
If you don't think a very young, freshmen-led offense putting up 400+ yards in every SEC game this season is impressive then you need to take the SEC blinders off.
I love arguing in absolutes.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:01 pm to The Egg
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wait, so OSU ran the same exact offense that a&m does?
you mean they were calling Weeden on designed runs/options, etc? you're telling me that Weeden was as mobile as Manziel is showing himself to be?
A&M's offense is way different than OSU in that they are able to add that extra dimension of a true running threat at the QB position.
Weeden stood back in the pocket all day long and picked teams apart by going to Blackmon all day, with the occasional sprinkling of Randle.
It's apples and oranges. just because both teams throw alot doesn't mean they are the same offense.
They're similar in their spread applications and intent to put as much speed and athleticism on the field as possible. Weeden is obviously more mobile, but they attack the edges with speed and get defenders in space.
If Sumlin has a mobile QB he'll use zone read to get to the perimeter. If not he'll use outside zones or bubbles screens. It's the same concepts just different applications.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:01 pm to FootballNostradamus
Texas A&M 2011 is a completely different team than Texas A&M 2012.
and lol at the clueless Swope comment on the last page.
and lol at the clueless Swope comment on the last page.
This post was edited on 11/12/12 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:02 pm to FootballNostradamus
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If you don't think a very young, freshmen-led offense putting up 400+ yards in every SEC game this season is impressive then you need to take the SEC blinders off.
I didn't say I wasn't impressed by Manziel, but stop pretending like A&M is torching all these great teams bc they aren't.
Also Manziel has never played in the BIG 12, a lot of your content here is saying how a BIG 12 offense is doing well in the SEC. But Manziel has never played in the BIG 12 and he's their whole offense...
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Who knows what would have happened if A&M would have had Swope when they played UF and LSU. He torched Bama and is the fastest white guy in the country.
Yea and if mom had a dick she'd be dad
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:03 pm to tylercsbn9
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Texas A&M 2011 is a completely different team than Texas A&M 2012.
I'm talking about the TYPE of team not necessarily Texas A&M itself.
Who do you think is better, 2012 Texas A&M or 2011 Oklahoma State?
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:03 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:it's not even just that.
If Sumlin has a mobile QB he'll use zone read to get to the perimeter. If not he'll use outside zones or bubbles screens. It's the same concepts just different applications.
Manziel might be the toughest QB to sack in recent memory. He's no statue like Weeden.
That's the dimension that nobody accounts for, the escapability of Manziel against teams that are not built to stop someone like him.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:04 pm to Baloo
I didn't start the thread, bub. I just wanted to point out something I've noticed around here. The SEC usually has the country's best team. That's obvious, but it's annoying when people act like good football can't be played outside of that conference.
For frick's sake ULM almost swept the SEC this year.
Do I think A&M's win made the SEC's dominance any less significant? No.
On a side note, I think that if Chip Kelly was hired by an SEC team with significant means (Arkansas) he would make them a top-3 team every single year.
For frick's sake ULM almost swept the SEC this year.
Do I think A&M's win made the SEC's dominance any less significant? No.
On a side note, I think that if Chip Kelly was hired by an SEC team with significant means (Arkansas) he would make them a top-3 team every single year.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:04 pm to gatorhata9
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Well the one example we have is the 2010 NCG and they scored 19 points on Auburn's dogshit defense.
Don't forget LSU raping the Ducks in Dallas last year.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:05 pm to FootballNostradamus
you still didn't address the swope comment.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:05 pm to FootballNostradamus
So many words, so little time.
I'm putting this read on layaway till Christmas.
I'm putting this read on layaway till Christmas.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:06 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Who knows what would have happened if A&M would have had Swope when they played UF and LSU.
Da Fuq?
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:09 pm to The Egg
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That's the dimension that nobody accounts for, the escapability of Manziel against teams that are not built to stop someone like him.
Johnny Football is a rare player that is just a pain in the arse to play against. He (and KS) are the reason A&M is relevant.
shite.
Look at what happened at Auburn. They got a title b/c of one player. Once he left they went to shite. And they were't exactly anything special before he got there outside the year Tubby took them to 13-0.
JFF is the reason for A&M's success. Yes, I know the Aggies had Tannehill, a first round pick, but they would have been creamed game in and game out last year in the SEC. Their offense would have been tailor made for teams like Bama, LSU, UF, to defend.
That's obviously not the case the the element of JFF and Kevin Sumlin's offense added versus last season.
Mizzou also says hello.
This post was edited on 11/12/12 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:09 pm to The Egg
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you still didn't address the swope comment.
It's like there is a big pile of bullshite on his keyboard, and he just keeps typing.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:09 pm to hendersonshands
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I didn't start the thread, bub. I just wanted to point out something I've noticed around here
And I'm just replying to your points. I agree that SEC homers are dumb, but acting like the SEC is suddenly not the pre-eminent conference is just as dumb.
I'd also like to point out that no one has mentioned Mizzou's transition to the SEC. What does that say about the Big 12? They went 5-4 in the Big 12 last year and now they are printing a t-shirt for their one SEC win.
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On a side note, I think that if Chip Kelly was hired by an SEC team with significant means (Arkansas) he would make them a top-3 team every single year.
Not top 3 every year, because there is no program in the country with that level of success, but I do think he would win anywhere. He's a great coach. Though I think the inherent limitations of Arkansas would hold him back from that kind of consistency.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:14 pm to Baloo
I think he'd still be able to recruit California and Texas really well. Plus if he got some of the "SEC speed" with his offense? Pooooooyie
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:24 pm to The Egg
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Manziel might be the toughest QB to sack in recent memory. He's no statue like Weeden.
That's the dimension that nobody accounts for, the escapability of Manziel against teams that are not built to stop someone like him.
He reminds me of how Pat White used to exploit any crease and go for 30 in a flash. Undersized and fearless, they'll be dangerous as long as he's taking snaps.
I don't think they've debunked anything though, it's TX talent and now they've got a rudder with Sumlin coaching.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 4:25 pm to FootballNostradamus
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