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re: Thanks Texas A&M for Debunking the SEC Myth

Posted on 11/12/12 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by 1fairbank
Smells Funny
Member since Sep 2011
1374 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 7:10 pm to
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The SEC streak has set back college football at least a decade.


I'd love to hear the details on this one, because clearly the BCS and weak-arse SOS has done way way more harm to CFB
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11810 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 7:15 pm to
The trolling going on in this thread is working.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18986 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 7:25 pm to
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how's Mizzou doing?

There QB is injured.
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
21004 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 7:29 pm to
LSUs game plan against ATM and WVA were pretty similar. Bend don't break.

Manziel was less than spectacular in that game against the best defense in football.

Posted by Bandits
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2008
3170 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 7:34 pm to
So aTm made no adjustments before coming to the SEC? They did bring in a new coach. Plus the fact remains that some of the best football players come from the state of Texas. Take a look across the nation and you will find them everywhere.
Posted by 20MuleTeam
West Hartford
Member since Sep 2012
3862 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 7:39 pm to
Hey dude newsflash: Texas A&M is in the SEC!!!!
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85087 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 7:44 pm to
Fact: LSU out gained Texas A&M against Alabama.

Let that marinate and get back to me OP.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51667 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 7:55 pm to
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Hey dude newsflash: Texas A&M is in the SEC!!!!



exactly. they got bigger, stronger and faster as soon as they switched leagues. Last year they were dog shite, this year they're an elite program
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5252 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:03 pm to
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Hey dude newsflash: Texas A&M is in the SEC!!!!


Yep, they got all the magic athletes who play a different level of football right when they switched.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85087 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:05 pm to
Spread offenses with QBs who can run have been very successful in the SEC for quite some time. The caveat is that the QB needs to be an elite CFB player.

Tebow
Newton
Johnny fricking Football
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85087 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:15 pm to
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Yep, they got all the magic athletes who play a different level of football right when they switched.


If you think any other conference, top to bottom, plays better defense than the SEC, you're delusional.

Kansas State, ND, and Oregon would likely be successful in the SEC this year. But the PAC 12 and the Big 12, as a whole, would not be. 6 SEC teams in the top 9 teams in the country. Enough said.

And before Zamoro jumps in and says that is because of the media bias towards the SEC, take note that the unbiased computers have SEC teams ranked 3, 5, 6, 7, T-8, and T-8.
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:26 pm to
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just think of the numbers Manziel would be putting up in the big 12. Also look at what LSU and Florida did to A&M


He forgot about that. End of discussion. Not reading anymore of this nonsense
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:28 pm to
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just think of the numbers Manziel would be putting up in the big 12. Also look at what LSU and Florida did to A&M
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25743 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:35 pm to
A great dual QB will be successful wherever he plays. See Tebow, Cam, RG3 and how their teams did after they left.
Posted by YouthInAsia
Member since May 2008
623 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:42 pm to
Honest question:

Does anybody else think Kirby Smart was just too proud to not look at any of the LSU tape of Chavis's adjustments during the LSU/A&M game? I mean, c'mon...blueprint, folks....
This post was edited on 11/12/12 at 8:43 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85087 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 8:47 pm to
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Honest question: Does anybody else think Kirby Smart was just too proud to not look at any of the LSU tape of Chavis's adjustments during the LSU/A&M game? I mean, c'mon...blueprint, folks....


Meh, Alabama is built around power a little more than LSU is. LSU and UF's speed were issues for A&M once their defense settled in.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:12 pm to
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And for years now I’ve argued that the SEC has been the most top-heavy conference in the nation, and is solely the product of having the best team in the nation the last 6 years. It’s been tough trying to get people to listen to this argument, but finally this past Saturday Texas A&M made the argument for me beautifully.

So it took 6 years for your 'argument' to have some validity? A&M is a very good team who upset Alabama after they played a helluva game @LSU the week prior. You're looking too far into this one single game.
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a middle of the road Big XII team (and yes, Texas A&M has never done shite in the Big XII in decades) debunked every single myth about the SEC.

Texas A&M also did not have Johnny Fricking Football playing last year. They're a completely different team this year and have still lost TWO games at home to two other top SEC defenses. And what do you have to say about Mizzou this year? They have been better than A&M in the Big 12 for quite a while and are an SEC cellar-dweller this year. They still run a Big 12 offense as well and have not performed well against SEC defenses. Everyone tries to use this one upset to say Big 12 offenses would be better than SEC defenses but they also forget about Mizzou.
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For years we’ve been told these SEC defenses would shred the likes of the Big XII offenses. For years we were told those offenses couldn’t handle the SEC pounding.

Again, Alabama, USC, UGA, and UF all killed Mizzou's offense. And why do you leave out the fact that Florida and LSU beat A&M at home? One win over a good D doesn't outweigh two losses.
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The most glaring point this game did was only reinforce how much Oklahoma State got screwed last year. That offense would have THROTTLED either of LSU or Alabama, zero doubt about it. The conference is no better than other conferences it’s just had the best team in its league each year and as such everyone else has road their coattails.

I love this. What happened the last time a Big 12 team played an SEC team in the NCG? Oklahoma's best offense in the history of college football score a whole 14 points against Florida. Not to mention that Ole Miss also beat Texas Tech that year in the Cotton Bowl.
The SEC has the best bowl record since the BCS began and the best BCS bowl record of any conference, undefeated in the BCSNG too. What can explain that? Keep in mind that with our tie-ins most of the time the opponent is a higher seed in their conference than the SEC team.
Posted by bhart99
Member since Oct 2007
662 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:13 pm to
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This is my point though, is that the SEC isn't TOP HEAVY, take the above teams and we have some great depth even adding MSU and Vandy.


Buddy it's very top heavy. The gap between 6-7 is massive. Who's MSU and Vandy beat? Nooo one.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:15 pm to
It's easy to be top heavy when your top 6 teams are in the top 11 of the entire NCAA.


And you can similarly ask who has a number 5 big XII team like Texas Tech and WVA defeated?
This post was edited on 11/12/12 at 9:21 pm
Posted by bhart99
Member since Oct 2007
662 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:20 pm to
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Kansas State, ND, and Oregon would likely be successful in the SEC this year. But the PAC 12 and the Big 12, as a whole, would not be. 6 SEC teams in the top 9 teams in the country. Enough said.

And before Zamoro jumps in and says that is because of the media bias towards the SEC, take note that the unbiased computers have SEC teams ranked 3, 5, 6, 7, T-8, and T-8.


And i'll continue to say it....you wouldn't have 4-9 in the BCS if these teams all played each other. Its impossible for the BIG 12 to have this because of the round robin. UGA and Bama both miss the top 4 teams from the other division. The BIg 12 doesn't have that luxury. Also all the good teams in the PAC all play each other during the season.
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