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re: Texas, Sark, and the all-out push to get the Horns in the College Football Playoffs
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:01 pm to TexasOnTop
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:01 pm to TexasOnTop
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I don't disagree. It's a tough field this year, but the issue I have is when Tech is scheduling Arkansas Pine Bluff and Texas is playing at tOSU, there seems to be no reward for scheduling those games. tOSU would still be ranked 1 or 2 without it's game against us, and we'd be anywhere from 6-8 if we scheduled a gimme win. It sets an ugly precedent for the sport and I don't think its in the sports best interest.
Same with Indiana, I agree. And especially when it is on top of the fact that overall SEC schedule for most of us (not everyone, but most of us) is such a grueling 8 games that going above and beyond to challenge yourself even more is something that should be given some level of value.
And I don't even mind when teams have a game scheduled and that team ends up not being good - not their fault (Oregon for example with Oklahoma State). They made a good faith effort. It's when it's brutally clear that there is zero intention of risking loss out of league (Texas Tech, Indiana, etc). That has to be penalized.
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:02 pm to dhuck20
Bama and OK have better resumes than TX even with the OSU loss ignored.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:03 pm to dhuck20
Texas and Vandy are OUT
I’m concerned SEC might not get 5.
Ultimately, the committee approach is political.
I’m concerned SEC might not get 5.
Ultimately, the committee approach is political.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:06 pm to dhuck20
The CFP really needs to account for strength of schedule.
Without that, legitimate teams will continually be left out.
Without that, legitimate teams will continually be left out.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:07 pm to TexasWranglers
quote:your own coach said they practiced the onside kick expecting it may occur so I do find it a little weird he would take time at practice an “abnormal” football play.
Nothing takes away from that but dont act like a mid game onside kick is a "fairly normal football play"
Idk why we have to act like Georgia had a lady distract the ref so we can hit you in the balls, WWE style.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:10 pm to tBrand
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Losing to OSU is not why Texas is being left out. Losing to Florida is.
You people are delusional. If Texas plays Rice instead of Ohio State, we’re ranked 9 right now
They would be closer but not necessarily in. You still got destroyed by Georgia and should have lost to 2 other shitty teams. OU has the argument that Mateer played hurt and they beat Bama on the road. Then you have Notre Dame and Miami. Even Vandy doesn't have the bad loss you do.
You can certainly make the argument that Texas would get in but acting like it is a sure thing because "We're Texas" and only looking at things in a positive light for you doesn't make it so.
I'm assuming you think A&M should be the highest ranked 1 loss team as well too, right? After all that helps your resume. Can't have it both ways.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:14 pm to dhuck20
95% - 99%% of the time after a scoring possession a college football team does not attempt an onside kick that is not a desperation (last possession scenario).
You executed and won, great for you but dont act like thats a normal football play done each and every game because thats factually incorrect. If you are comparing these teams that play (and the 4th down off sides) completely changed what was a very close game.
You executed and won, great for you but dont act like thats a normal football play done each and every game because thats factually incorrect. If you are comparing these teams that play (and the 4th down off sides) completely changed what was a very close game.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:16 pm to TexasWranglers
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95% - 99%% of the time after a scoring possession a college football team does not attempt an onside kick that is not a desperation (last possession scenario).
You executed and won, great for you but dont act like thats a normal football play done each and every game because thats factually incorrect. If you are comparing these teams that play (and the 4th down off sides) completely changed what was a very close game.
Your argument has the opposite effect that you intend. The fact that Sark never saw that coming just illustrates how fricking lost that man is when we play a team like Georgia. It's embarrassing honestly.
Why do you think Kirby attempted it? He knows Sark is outmatched in that game. It was an easy call for him.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:16 pm to hookem33
If Texas had played Baylor instead of Ohio State and won
Texas (10-2, 6-2)
Wins : #7 Texas A&M (+10), #8 Oklahoma (N) (+17), #13 Vanderbilt (+3)
Losses : @ #3 Georgia (-25), @ Florida (-8)
Oklahoma (10-2, 6-2)
Wins : @ #10 Alabama (+2), #18 Michigan (+11), #25 Missouri (+11), @ #26 Tennessee (+6)
Losses : #9 Texas (rank guess) (N) (-17), #6 Ole Miss (-8)
Alabama (10-2, 7-1)
Wins :@ #3 Georgia (+3), #13 Vanderbilt (+16), @ #25 Missouri (+3), #26 Tennessee (+17)
Losses : #8 Oklahoma (-2), @ Florida St (-14)
Vanderbilt (10-2, 6-2)
Wins : #25 Missouri (+7), @ #26 Tennessee (+21)
Losses : @ #9 Texas (-3), @ #10 Alabama (-16)
I'm guessing it'd be something like #8 Texas, #9 Oklahoma, #10 Alabama. Vanderbilt would be well out. I actually think that 3 teams with similar resumes so far above Notre Dames and Miami's would clearly move both of them out, too.
Texas (10-2, 6-2)
Wins : #7 Texas A&M (+10), #8 Oklahoma (N) (+17), #13 Vanderbilt (+3)
Losses : @ #3 Georgia (-25), @ Florida (-8)
Oklahoma (10-2, 6-2)
Wins : @ #10 Alabama (+2), #18 Michigan (+11), #25 Missouri (+11), @ #26 Tennessee (+6)
Losses : #9 Texas (rank guess) (N) (-17), #6 Ole Miss (-8)
Alabama (10-2, 7-1)
Wins :@ #3 Georgia (+3), #13 Vanderbilt (+16), @ #25 Missouri (+3), #26 Tennessee (+17)
Losses : #8 Oklahoma (-2), @ Florida St (-14)
Vanderbilt (10-2, 6-2)
Wins : #25 Missouri (+7), @ #26 Tennessee (+21)
Losses : @ #9 Texas (-3), @ #10 Alabama (-16)
I'm guessing it'd be something like #8 Texas, #9 Oklahoma, #10 Alabama. Vanderbilt would be well out. I actually think that 3 teams with similar resumes so far above Notre Dames and Miami's would clearly move both of them out, too.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:18 pm to hookem33
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We don't have as much political power as you think. Back in '08 we were in a 3 way tie with Tech and Oklahoma (with a win over Oklahoma) and the Sooners went to the title game over us. If we had any real power we would have gone over them.
In '08, Texas had even more of a gripe that it was decided by BCS rankings that leapfrogged Oklahoma over Texas in that final week. But Texas and Oklahoma both historically have had some political pull in college football.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:21 pm to tpatten
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But Texas and Oklahoma both historically have had some political pull in college football.
yeah there's no doubt.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:21 pm to tpatten
quote:Lobbying to get in and complaining about being left out are long standing SEC traditions.
Texas is new to it, so I can understand them complaining about being left out whereas the rest of the SEC understands they have to survive the SEC first and that the road to the National Championship goes through the SEC first.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:22 pm to hookem33
Sark is right. It is what every SEC school should do.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:22 pm to Meltologist
It worked 
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:22 pm to dhuck20
Historically I have no mercy for bubble teams, which is what Texas is this year.
At the same time, zero reason for Texas (or any other SEC team for that matter) to continue scheduling big OOC games if the record is all that matters.
If the only change to Texas’s record was a win over Rice instead of a loss to Ohio St, Horns would be a 7-8 seed in the CFP.
At the same time, zero reason for Texas (or any other SEC team for that matter) to continue scheduling big OOC games if the record is all that matters.
If the only change to Texas’s record was a win over Rice instead of a loss to Ohio St, Horns would be a 7-8 seed in the CFP.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:22 pm to BevoBucks
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Lobbying to get in and complaining about being left out are long standing SEC traditions.
Yep I remember many threads last year from Ole Miss and Bama fans trying to make the argument. It's somehow different, however, when it's Texas fans. Don't try to understand it. Just accept it.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:24 pm to dhuck20
Sunbelt Billy would like a word baws
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:24 pm to hookem33
Disagree but whatever man, you hate Sark I get it. Circle back in 3 - 5 years if / when we are looking for a new coach. I think you will be waiting for a while.
Kirby called the play because he rightfully saw those up backs bailing continuously and he got lucky the first one was a pansy and avoided contact when the ball was there to be grabbed. Great call and luck = they recovered.
Every single game there is a coach that says "watch the onside kick" and they did it against UGA. The 2 morons who were targeted had a brain fart or are not smart football players or both, but dont pretend that our coaches dont remind those kids every single kickoff to watch the fake.
Kirby called the play because he rightfully saw those up backs bailing continuously and he got lucky the first one was a pansy and avoided contact when the ball was there to be grabbed. Great call and luck = they recovered.
Every single game there is a coach that says "watch the onside kick" and they did it against UGA. The 2 morons who were targeted had a brain fart or are not smart football players or both, but dont pretend that our coaches dont remind those kids every single kickoff to watch the fake.
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:26 pm to TexasWranglers
quote:no they lost by 25 to UGA
Did Texas improve this year after the Florida game?
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:28 pm to TexasWranglers
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Disagree but whatever man, you hate Sark I get it. Circle back in 3 - 5 years if / when we are looking for a new coach. I think you will be waiting for a while.
Kirby called the play because he rightfully saw those up backs bailing continuously and he got lucky the first one was a pansy and avoided contact when the ball was there to be grabbed. Great call and luck = they recovered.
Every single game there is a coach that says "watch the onside kick" and they did it against UGA. The 2 morons who were targeted had a brain fart or are not smart football players or both, but dont pretend that our coaches dont remind those kids every single kickoff to watch the fake.
Fair enough but one question for you. If Sark had tried that, do you think Kirby would have been ready for it? I sure do.
I think part of the problem is that our head coach seems so focused on the offense that the team suffers. Perhaps if he wasn't digging through his playbook during special teams or when the defense is on the field we'd be a lot better at the little details that make the great coaches so good at their job. This program is a lot for a coach to manage. Trying to be OC and CEO is hurting this program.
I also realize that sark will never give up play calling so we'll never get to see how successful he could be if hired someone to run the offense. I think it will eventually lead to his firing. Time will tell.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 3:29 pm
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