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re: Tennessee President says SEC will enforce anti-NFL rules

Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:17 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:17 pm to
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How many times did they hit you with the Dumbass Stick?

I'm thinking it must have been a pretty severe beating.


Ad nauseam attacks won't save you now. Why is your president a hypocrite?

Lawsuits for me, not for thee.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:17 pm to
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’m certain that’s not what you intended, however.


Answer me this: We just got an NFL recall on one of the LSU players. Articles have been written that he had no choice. Is that right? Did this player have a choice? It's speculated that the recall cost this player a lot of money. They think he had no choice. What do you think?

What argument could a local judge make on Thursday for another year at LSU when one of the players just suffered a mandatory recall to the NFL?
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5738 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:19 pm to
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How can any self-respecting player bitch about missing another loophole? COVID has allowed all college teams of every sport to compete for almost a decade. Saturday, Virginia had two offensive linemen who were in their 7th year. Some of these guys are on their 5th or 6th different team.


Guess who got the short stick out of all those classes? 2022. They had to compete with multiples more older, more experienced players their entire time in college. Even in their final season, there were an excessive number of 5th and 6th year players from 2020 and 2021. The former got 5 seasons by default and both of those classes red-shirted in large numbers because of the Covid glut of older players. And then, the NCAA decides to give everyone an extra year, but they specifically carve out 2022. They're not bitching about missing a loophole. They're seeking recourse because they've been screwed out of an opportunity (which was widely available to their peers) to finally be the experienced players on the roster.
Posted by G Munny
Member since Aug 2026
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:21 pm to
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SidewalkTiger

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:24 pm to
Why is your president a hypocrite?
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:24 pm to
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Guess who got the short stick out of all those classes? 2022. They had to compete with multiples more older, more experienced players their entire time in college. Even in their final season, there were an excessive number of 5th and 6th year players from 2020 and 2021. The former got 5 seasons by default and both of those classes red-shirted in large numbers because of the Covid glut of older players. And then, the NCAA decides to give everyone an extra year, but they specifically carve out 2022. They're not bitching about missing a loophole. They're seeking recourse because they've been screwed out of an opportunity (which was widely available to their peers) to finally be the experienced players on the roster.


I have no idea how many times I've heard this. I'm telling you that getting drafted by the NFL is much the same as getting drafted by the Marines. You don't get to change your mind.

The SEC and other conferences are telling drafted players, and Lane Kiffin, that they don't get to change their minds.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
74262 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:25 pm to
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The SEC and other conferences are telling drafted players, and Lane Kiffin, that they don't get to change their minds.


Changing their minds from what?
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27998 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:32 pm to
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Answer me this: We just got an NFL recall on one of the LSU players. Articles have been written that he had no choice. Is that right? Did this player have a choice? It's speculated that the recall cost this player a lot of money. They think he had no choice. What do you think?


He wasn’t recalled and if you were aware of the terms of TRO, and what his attorney said about the possible return to LSU, you’d know why he removed his name from the lawsuit, and why it’s being said he didn’t have a choice.
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:36 pm to
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On Thursday, the judge is further going to rule that if the SEC seeks to circumvent the court order by taking action against LSU, it is substantively violating the original court order. If Sankey nevertheless violates the court order and fines LSU or Kiffin, the other 15 school will be paying LSU and Kiffin a lot of money.


Court orders only bind parties to the case to or from certain conduct.

So no, unless the SEC is a party to the court case they can do whatever they like. LSU would be free to file another lawsuit…
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:38 pm to
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He wasn’t recalled



No, he was just released by one NFL team and then claimed off waivers by another NFL team. It's almost like he's really an NFL player.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5738 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:38 pm to
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I'm telling you that getting drafted by the NFL is much the same as getting drafted by the Marines. You don't get to change your mind.


And I'm telling you that by switching the rule when and how they did, the NCAA denied class of 2022 players an opportunity that everyone else had, before and after. That was the opportunity to be older and wiser than their position rivals, have an extra season to learn their craft and maximize their future earnings.

Of all the NCAA/SEC rules handed down the last 10 years, this 5 for 5 mismanagement make the least sense and is most damaging to certain players. Of all the Injunctions/TROs, etc., against cfb rules the last 10 years, the ones against the bumbled implementation of that 5 for 5 rule make the most sense. Your dogmatic opinion doesn't change any of that.
This post was edited on 9/1/26 at 7:41 pm
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27998 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:39 pm to
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So no, unless the SEC is a party to the court case they can do whatever they like. LSU would be free to file another lawsuit…


The SEC and Sankey were added to the case by the players in Louisiana.

LSU hasn’t filed one lawsuit…

JFC, do people on this board have any idea what is actually happening with this at all? Y’all look like fools.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:42 pm to
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Your dogmatic opinion doesn't change any of that.


Unless they are deemed legally to be NFL players. Then I will sound a lot less dogmatic.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27998 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:44 pm to
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No, he was just released by one NFL team and then claimed off waivers by another NFL team. It's almost like he's really an NFL player.


Per the terms of the TRO he was ineligible to return to LSU. This is not that hard.

What point are you trying to make again?
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5738 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:47 pm to
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Unless they are deemed legally to be NFL players. Then I will sound a lot less dogmatic.


You will always sound completely dogmatic until you acknowledge that many, perhaps most of them wouldn't have tried to enter the NFL if the injustice hadn't occurred. The onus of that is on the NCAA, and secondarily the SEC after they tacitly admitted the fact that those players were eligible and
should have been told they were going to be eligible in a timely manner.
This post was edited on 9/1/26 at 7:49 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52740 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 7:56 pm to
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Someone feel free to correct my constitutional law understanding cause Im not a lawyer. However this case is being heard in state court. So SEC member schools could just say those players are only eligible in Louisiana and ineligible to play in their states right?


Is Trinidad only playing games in Mississippi?
Posted by TeeteringBrink
Member since Feb 2007
1401 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 8:00 pm to
You keep using the term “injustice.” If you enter into an employment agreement under which you have an expectation of receiving four of something, and you receive exactly that during the term of the contract, is it an “injustice” if the employees coming after you get more than you did? Do you really think you have the legal right to sue?

“Yes, your honor, they gave me everything I expected to get when I signed up, but now that the contract is over I want more. Make them pay.”

I faced some pretty frivolous arguments in court over the years, but this would be a doosie.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
12645 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 8:00 pm to
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So SEC member schools could just say those players are only eligible in Louisiana and ineligible to play in their states right?


Full Faith & Credit Clause of the Constitution. To way oversimplify what's become a complex area of law - a court is suppose to give full Faith and Credit to a decision made by another court, even if in another state.

If I civilly sued someone in Louisiana and won a judgement, I could enforce it in Tennessee without needing to re-litigate the matter in Tennessee.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
110213 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 8:04 pm to
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the league will enforce its rules regarding NFL players trying to return to college. "We are prepared to defend our rules and our authority to defend our rules." She adds: "This is not a rule we will budge on."

That's great. So, no players that were in NFL camps trying out for NFL teams should be allowed to play. Let's agree on that and move on.
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She said she hopes that "people can come to their senses" and "avoid something that would be really unfortunate for college football."

We have all been saying that for a while now even dating back to when the guys weren't grandfathered in.
Posted by TeeteringBrink
Member since Feb 2007
1401 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 8:04 pm to
An injunction against a party generally follows the party wherever he/she/it goes. The injunction in the Chambliss case was against the NCAA, prohibiting it from denying his eligibility. I doubt that any other party (except perhaps the conference) would have any standing to challenge it.
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