re: Teams that return their left tackle on Bama's schedule.

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Greg Robinson was considered for that spot for that reason. That was two years ago, you need to stay away from the bammer websites for your retorts.

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Greg Robinson was drafted that high because of his raw athletic ability and the fact that NFL guys were certain they could turn him into a great pass blocker once he entered a system that taught professional pass blocking and offensive styles. They hadn't seen it on tape because he didn't block that way at Auburn because that isn't how Auburn's scheme is run.

Cam Robinson already plays in one of those offenses. If he can't pass block, they already know it.

Greg Robinson or Jake Matthews?

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Pass blocking

This is where the projection comes in for Robinson. Because the Tigers run such a unique offense, the sample size for Robinson’s pass blocking is limited. But there’s no question he can do it, especially with a lot more work on the fundamentals. Robinson does not exhibit a classic kick slide in pass blocking; it’s more of a shuffle. He’s such a good athlete that it’s still very effective. Robinson does a good job mirroring the rusher, and his arm length is a big weapon especially when you consider that his punch at the point of attack is underdeveloped. Smaller, quicker edge rushers can get under him, but he never gets overpowered. Robinson’s bad habit in pass protection is that his hands can get outside and he can get grabby and draw holding penalties. But these limited flaws can be cleaned up with good coaching. Once Robinson becomes a cleaner player in pass blocking, he could be unstoppable.

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No, NFL scouts look at the intangibles and ignore what they looked like in College. They know that the will have to be retrained in most cases. That is why the Combine is more important to OL then the season.

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I'm not clear what you are arguing at this point. Your argument was that Cam is only good because of his run blocking. The counter was #1 Left Tackles have to do more than run block. Your counter was Greg Robinson. Mine, and TTs was that Greg Robinson was a great run blocker and an unknown pass blocker (which was quoted above by sources at the time).

There is a big difference in unknown pass blocker and average pass blocker. Cam is neither, he is an above average pass blocker playing in a pro-style scheme (which gives scouts ton of useable tape) with great athletic ability and a great run blocker. G. Robinson was an unknown pass blocker with great athletic ability and a great run blocker. So far, they haven't been able to translate what they thought they could to good NFL pass blocking with him.

It's not that hard.

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No, you were claiming that OT are only selected by how they passed blocked in College. I corrected you with a recent example.

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Greg Robinson didn't play in a system that showed whether he could pass black or not. Therefore teams had to move on to plan B, measurables and projections. Greg Robinson didn't have bad pass blocking film, he had no pass blocking film outside of run/pass options. It was an unknown, not a negative.

Cam Robinson does play in a system that shows his pass block skill. Teams will have plenty of film of him blocking in schemes that most of the NFL teams run.

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Cam R is know for his run blocking and shows pass blocking weaknesses, but scouts will attribute that to college coaching

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He had 6 games of average pass blocking, and after a bye week in which his body healed he mauled everyone in the run game and the pass game.

I have no idea what you are talking about in terms of prolific passing games. We just run normal pro-style offense. Nobody claimed it was prolific.

Yall are going to hype him up only to find out that your OLine is that bad.

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Yall are going to hype him up only to find out that your OLine is that bad.

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We're replacing a couple of players, they haven't really played together as a unit yet, nor have they had much time to fully learn each other's tendencies in live action. At Bama, Saban has always mixed and matched his line in prior spring and fall camps to see what works and what doesn't. Guess what, some lines turn out to be serviceable, some turn out to be good, and some turn out to be great.

And they usually end up in a championship game at the end of the season. Go figure.

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Greg Robinson didn't play in a system that showed whether he could pass black or not. Therefore teams had to move on to plan B, measurables and projections. Greg Robinson didn't have bad pass blocking film, he had no pass blocking film outside of run/pass options. It was an unknown, not a negative.

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This is where you are chasing your tail again. You forget that AU ran the Pro I the year before. Scouts do not care what System the QB is passing out of, they are concerned with if a DE can get around or thru the OT.

Well he did have 10.5 sacks last year. So...

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But.. but...but the Olines he played against weren't good.

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Every year it's this after success, then right before insert game they say our OL is the best ever. IT NEVER FAILS.

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We didn't have our top 5 left tackle against you all last year either. Greg Little will make him his baby back bitch

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Little won't even be the best Freshman tackle in the SEC next year.

Clearly scouts didn't think 2012 was enough tape because the constant draft talk was that his psss blocking was an unknown (see above).