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re: So...the NCAA investigators / Miss. State made shite up?
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:45 am to cave canem
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:45 am to cave canem
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Of course they can, unless she owns part of the store that he was aware of that is.
If she has a RR business card, and she is the daughter of the owner, the business is implicated. And she does draw profits from the store, as does her daughter.
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Remember it was not MSU that turned OM in no matter how much the OM media pumps that, the State players got caught up in this by a dumb arse OM coach and his lazy phone use.
Both are pretty hated, but one did it on purpose while taking money from other programs as well while the coaches fricked us on accident. Even your brain can decipher the difference there.
We arent facing a second year bowl ban and an already ruined recruiting class if it isn't for the second NOA which is all MSU snitching.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 8:47 am
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:49 am to Whereisomaha
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Doesn't matter which story you believe, but you have to pick one. If you pick the one where he did get a bunch of merchandise then the card you said that he has implicates rebel rags and he isn't saying what he is saying.
This is rich. I believe the one story that has been consistent and hasn't changed...and that's Kobe's story, which is what is in the NOA and what his attorney refers to in this briefing.
The changing story is on your side....it evolves once a week as your fanboys concoct new versions for you sheep to lap up.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:51 am to Drebin
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This is rich. I believe the one story that has been consistent and hasn't changed...and that's Kobe's story, which is what is in the NOA and what his attorney refers to in this briefing.
He just changed his story
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The changing story is on your side....it evolves once a week as your fanboys concoct new versions for you sheep to lap up.
Please give me an example
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:55 am to Whereisomaha
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If she has a RR business card, and she is the daughter of the owner, the business is implicated. And she does draw profits from the store, as does her daughter.
Way too many assumptions in that statement, the daughter may or may not draw profit, she may or may not have ID'ed herself as owners daughter etc., I have no more clue than you as to what really happened.
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but one did it on purpose while taking money from other programs as well while the coaches fricked us on accident. Even your brain can decipher the difference there
That is nonsense and if it did not involve your team you would laugh at the absurdity of that statement, had the dipshit coach not got the players caught the NCAA would not know a thing about this. The kids did what they had to do to keep playing, it is the adults professionals who are supposed to know better and be held to the higher standard.
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MSU snitching
link to any single item MSU snitched about.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:55 am to Reservoir dawg
No more panalties! We gonna win more games now!!!
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:55 am to Drebin
The OM Spirit spin is the best part of this story.
For almost 2 years all the rebsharks have sworn that "nobody reads the Spirit", "nobody listens to Yancey"
Yet here they are. Again. Spewing out the Spirit talking points, almost word for word, from the mind of renown legal expert Yancey FN Porter
Never change OM faithful. Never change.
For almost 2 years all the rebsharks have sworn that "nobody reads the Spirit", "nobody listens to Yancey"
Yet here they are. Again. Spewing out the Spirit talking points, almost word for word, from the mind of renown legal expert Yancey FN Porter
Never change OM faithful. Never change.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:56 am to Whereisomaha
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He just changed his story
Again. Source?
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:57 am to Vecchio Cane
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The OM Spirit spin is the best part of this story.
No one reads the spirit more than this guy. Do they even have a site anymore? I thought Scout shut down
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:00 am to Vecchio Cane
The Rebs did nothing. Nothing. The Rebs are clean as a whistle. Everybody making all this shite up. They are getting off scott free and are hiring the greatest coach ever. They are still kicking arse this year. State did all of this and they are going down. Down I tell you! They have talked to the NCAA and they all know this. Everybody jealous of the Rebels.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:00 am to Vecchio Cane
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Again. Source?
The NOA & Shapley. The NOA said the received free merchandise from RR and Shapley said he was given a RR business card with the owner's daughter's number on it.
Yall would rather believe that a 3* from Starkville got 2K worth of free tshirts and that RR is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars, opening themselves up to audits to protect a lie, then believe a 19 year old kid is lying. Not surprising giving you are the last sec program hit by the ncaa and hit for buying a player, you land a kid like leo who said he took money from other programs, but yall are the only clean one in the league. The most brain washed sad people on earth.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:07 am to Whereisomaha
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Barney told him to go to RR, and he goes to RR, gets a card from the store owner, and walks out with a bunch of free stuff then he isn't saying RR didn't give him anything. That card you believe in implicates RR. Either drop the card story or drop the free merchandise. Both cant be true.
Will you please read and stop dragging down the IQ of this board.
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ENFORCEMENT WRITTEN REPLY Case N
X. ALLEGATION NO. 9 – Between January 25 and 27, 2013, and between March 28, 2014, and January 31, 2016, Kiffin and Barney Farrar (Farrar), then assistant athletic director for high school and junior college relations for football, respectively, arranged approximately $2,800 in impermissible recruiting inducements in the form of free merchandise from Rebel Rags, LLC (Rebel Rags), a representative of the institution's athletics interests, for two then football prospective student-athletes and a then family member of another then football prospective student-athlete.
Now answer these questions from above.
Who does it say ARRANGED for the free stuff? An arrangement would mean what?
If you have an employer that requires you to travel and ARRANGES for travel accommodations... does that mean the airlines let you fly for free?
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:09 am to CleverUserName
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The enforcement staff finds support for this allegation in the fact that three independent individuals claim that Rebel Rags provided inducements to University recruits. That interpretation of the factual record is misguided. [Family Member 1], [Student-Athlete 39], and [Student-Athlete 40] each tell a substantially different story about what allegedly happened, and each story suffers obvious and substantiated factual inconsistencies and errors. Each claim is directly contradicted by Rebel Rags, by their own friends or family, and, most importantly, by objective documentary evidence. The enforcement staff originally abandoned the individual claims by [Family Member 1] and [Student-Athlete 40] – and understandably so. The allegations only fare worse collectively. The Committee should therefore reject Allegation No. 9 in its entirety. 10. [NCAA Division I Manual Bylaw 16.11.2.1 (2012-13)]
The NCAA originally chose not to charge OM with this in the first allegation. Then Kobe's info prompted them to add the charge. Shouldn't have done that
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 9:13 am
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:09 am to Whereisomaha
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A Rebel Rags business card with the owners daughters number on it. This would implicate Rebel Rags. Kobe is saying Rebel Rags did not give him any merchandise. The two cannot both be true.
Are you stupid? Obviously someone took care of the bill. Do y’all think all these years, RR is just taking a hit for these deals? Hell no. He’s getting paid for it. But the recruits aren’t paying. Thus nobody is being “given anything” by RR. He’s been paid for it. More than likely arraigned by Barney. Explaining the dozens of calls over one weekend between RR and Barney.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:13 am to Whereisomaha
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We all have an agenda, but explain to me why you believe what you are saying makes any sense if he is now contradicting what the noa said?
What he is “now” saying is exactly what he always said. There’s not one but of contradicting to it. Look, just admit y’all tricked up again. By believing Ysncey and rushing to post crap. No one on this site besides OM fans are confused on this.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:15 am to Whereisomaha
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The NOA said the received free merchandise from RR and Shapley said he was given a RR business card with the owner's daughter's number on it.
Help me help you. Here's what the NOA states:
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Factual Information (FI) on which the enforcement staff relies for Allegation No. 8:
The attached exhibit details the factual information on which the enforcement staff relies for Allegation No. 8 between March 28, 2014, and January 31, 2016, Chris Kiffin (Kiffin), then assistant football coach, and Barney Farrar (Farrar), then assistant athletic director 10
[10] for high school and junior college relations for football, respectively, arranged approximately $2,800 in impermissible recruiting inducements in the form of free merchandise from Rebel Rags, LLC (Rebel Rags),
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a representative of the institution's athletics interests, for two then football prospective student-athletes and a then family member of another then football prospective student-athlete. Specifically: a.
Between January 25 and 27, 2013, Kiffin arranged for [Family Member 1], then football prospective student-athlete [Student-
Athlete 1’s]
mother's then boyfriend, to receive approximately $400 worth of free merchandise from Rebel Rags during [Student-
Athlete 1’s]
official paid visit. Kiffin arranged the impermissible inducements by directing [Family Member 1] to Rebel Rags on this occasion with the understanding that [Family Member 1] would receive free merchandise. [NCAA Bylaws 13.2.1, 13.2.1.1-(b) and 13.2.1.1-(f) (2012-13)] b.
On one occasion between March 28 and November 30, 2014, Farrar arranged for then football prospective student-athlete [Student-Athlete 39] to receive approximately $400 worth of free merchandise from Rebel Rags in conjunction with an unofficial visit. Farrar arranged the impermissible inducements by directing [Student-Athlete 39] to Rebel Rags on this occasion with the understanding that [Student-Athlete 39] would receive free merchandise. [NCAA Bylaws 13.2.1, 13.2.1.1-(b) and 13.2.1.1-(f) (2013-14 or 2014-15)] c.
On four occasions between September 4, 2015, and January 31, 2016, Farrar arranged for then football prospective student-athlete [Student-Athlete 40] to receive approximately $500 worth of free merchandise from Rebel Rags during recruiting visits to the institution. Farrar arranged the impermissible inducements by directing [Student-Athlete 40] to Rebel Rags on these occasions with the understanding that [Student-Athlete 40] would receive free merchandise. The combined monetary value of merchandise [Student-Athlete 40] received from Rebel Rags was approximately $2,000. [NCAA Bylaws 13.2.1, 13.2.1.1-(b) and 13.2.1.1-(f) (2015-16)]
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:16 am to fillmoregandt
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The NCAA originally chose not to charge OM with this in the first allegation. Then Kobe's info prompted them to add the charge. Shouldn't have done that
You're citing OlMiss' Response? Alrighty then
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:16 am to DingDongEddieStrong
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We're still winning SEC games
Bitch you are about the go 4-12 and finish no better than 6th in a 7 team division 2 seasons in a row. That’s before NCAA sanctions have even been announced. Damm not even in Mississippi people can be so stupid to say shite like that.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:18 am to Vecchio Cane
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Chris Kiffin: Kiffin explained that he encouraged recruits to go see Rebel Rags because it is the largest retail store in the area and helps get them excited about the University, but he did not make any arrangements or otherwise communicate with Rebel Rags’ owner, Terry Warren, about [Student-Athlete 1] or his family. FI No. 199 at 20, Chris Kiffin 8/06/15/ transcript. Kiffin also denied asking Warren to provide free merchandise to [Student-Athlete 1], [Family Member 1], or anyone else in [Student-Athlete 1 ’s ] party. Id. at 17-21. ?
Terry Warren: Like Kiffin, Warren confirmed that there was no arrangement to provide free merchandise to recruits like [Student-Athlete 1]. He also recalled meeting [Family Member 1] and [Family Member 2] during their visit and provided details about their conversation, which did not touch on extra benefits but focused on common life experiences, such as how [Family Member 1 ’s ] military experience compared with that of Warren’s son. Finally, Warren confirmed that there was no way that [Family Member 1] or anyone else could have taken merchandise out of his store without paying for it unless he approved it or there was theft involved. FI No. 206 at 22-26, Terry Warren 8/11/15 transcript.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 9:20 am
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:19 am to Vecchio Cane
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You're citing OlMiss' Response? Alrighty then
If you're going to cite the NOA, game on.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:23 am to SouthOfHere
This thread is fantastic. Mississippians accusing other Mississippians of below average intelligence and lack of reading comprehension. If you are taking any statement at face value issued by any party involved in this matter then you lack the common sense of a peanut. However, it has become readily apparent that statements given may have included some healthy imagination. This is the norm.
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