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re: So Venables convinced Notre Dame commit to visit OU after asking recruits not to
Posted on 7/31/22 at 2:01 pm to JustinOKC
Posted on 7/31/22 at 2:01 pm to JustinOKC
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He’s a POS. Perfect fit for a POS school like OU.
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This means so much coming from a historically overated program like a&m. And oh by the way, a program that considers 4 losses a success lol
Oh, and forfeits are a thing of glory too.
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 2:48 pm to ColoradoAg
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Is the degree printed on TP?
No that's what all your natties are printed on, aggot.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 3:16 pm to beaverfever
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I don’t see the hypocrisy. His opinion would probably be that the kid that’s visiting isn’t committed to Notre Dame.
So you’d think by saying this that Venables certainly wouldn’t ever consider pursuing a player who has commited to another program, right?
Except this very weekend Venables and Oklahoma are hosting five-star safety Peyton Bowen on campus. Bowen committed to Notre Dame on New Year’s Day and has seen his recruiting ranking improve since.
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 3:35 pm to CharlotteSooner
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Venables doesn't tell recruits not to take visits, morons
Ummm. Yes he does.
After a verbal commitment, he absolutely does. Why are you soft playing this fact?
Posted on 7/31/22 at 3:44 pm to Tideroller
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prefer Saban's approach which is basically "if you're still looking, we're still looking. When you get through and decide you want to come here, I hope we still have a spot left."
Saban is still looking even after the athlete commits and shuts it down. Big time programs do this. Which is why the kids still should take visits.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:14 pm to meansonny
Even in this age of NIL OU will still be going on probation every 4 or 5 years or so. Typical, but at least The Bootleggers boy made it worth it with MNCs. It won't be that way for BV though because his schedule will be stacked with programs that can and will stomp that sooner arse. Switzer didn't have to worry about that so much. You might still go to Texas and get players, but you won't come to Georgia and get players that Kirby actually covets. You'll see.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:33 pm to CedarChest
Ok Boomer time for the afternoon nap.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 5:24 pm to meansonny
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Ummm. Yes he does.
Why are you soft playing this fact?
Because he's our coach, and not yours, and I'd know better what's going on at MY program than you mindless turds do?
He does not tell kids they can't take visits. Period. Saying it over and over again isn't going to make it true.
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After a verbal commitment, he absolutely does.
Because they've already taken all their visits when they decide to commit, dipshit. That's how it works.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 7/31/22 at 5:46 pm to C W
Not sure it’s hypocritical. Actually it supports his argument that kids should not commit if they want to continue taking visits. So he asks his commits to stop visits. Notre Dame doesn’t. They are ok with recruits continuing to visit After they commit.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 5:52 pm to tilthatday
So it’s not hypocritical for me to ask my fiancee not to see other guys after we commit to each other but it’s ok if i see other women
In any event I didn’t write the article. I just agree with it and obviously so do a lot of other people
In any event I didn’t write the article. I just agree with it and obviously so do a lot of other people
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:23 pm to CedarChest
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Switzer didn't have to worry about that so much.
Switzer didn’t have to worry about Nebraska, Texas, colorado, Miami, etc???
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:21 pm to C W
Not only will that clown fail, but he will do it in spectacular fashion.
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:01 pm to tilthatday
Glad to see some SEC fans seeing this for what it is. Coach V is literally just saying I’m taking your commitment to us seriously, if you visit other schools after committing here, you’re not committed. If you visit here after committing to another team, you’re not committed.
After decades of truly dirty recruiting in the SEC, saying this is somehow hypocritical or dirty is intensely beautiful irony.
After years of watching gimmicky recruiting and hearing about secret bag-men, buying families of players houses. I’m not sure why people are so upset with a coach leaning toward good old fashioned integrity and seeing if it plays out.
It’s working so far, and it’s not against the rules. Anyone hating on this is just jealous.
After decades of truly dirty recruiting in the SEC, saying this is somehow hypocritical or dirty is intensely beautiful irony.
After years of watching gimmicky recruiting and hearing about secret bag-men, buying families of players houses. I’m not sure why people are so upset with a coach leaning toward good old fashioned integrity and seeing if it plays out.
It’s working so far, and it’s not against the rules. Anyone hating on this is just jealous.
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:03 pm to JustinOKC
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He doesn't want them committing until they're 100% serious.
He’s not a big time recruiter then. OU’s talent disadvantage isn’t going to get better under Brent. Oh well.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 7:07 am to RedDirt
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Anyone hating on this is just jealous.
I don't hate it.
I predict sooner fans will in 2 to 3 years. I've seen this before with Clemson and GT. This is recycled news.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 7:45 am to C W
This is ridiculous and you know it. He is saying that if you commit to OU MEAN it, and he is speaking for OU. He is telling recruits that if they commit to OU that needs to be the end, don't do it if you are not sure, parents and recruits respect this.
So I ask you what is wrong with that? Other schools are not doing that, so if a player commits to another school and is not sure, why would he NOT pursue them. IT is very telling that people are freaking out over this. Everyone on this board has spent months saying OU was done and Venables could not recruit, and now he has a #6 class, and has picked up a level of Defensive talent that OU has not seen in over 15 years, and frankly he is not done.
So I ask you what is wrong with that? Other schools are not doing that, so if a player commits to another school and is not sure, why would he NOT pursue them. IT is very telling that people are freaking out over this. Everyone on this board has spent months saying OU was done and Venables could not recruit, and now he has a #6 class, and has picked up a level of Defensive talent that OU has not seen in over 15 years, and frankly he is not done.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 7:48 am
Posted on 8/1/22 at 8:05 am to Sooner a Reb
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So I ask you what is wrong with that?
Are his coaches committed? Are they never going to leave these kids (i.e. not even before signing day?).
Is his support staff committed? Are they never going to leave these kids (i.e. not even before signing day?).
Are these kids lives static? Family members health will never change? Girlfriends will never change? Personal ambitions will never change?
Before you answer, you already have 6 commits for 2024... have they even been permitted to take their officials yet?
Edit to add... it takes about 2 years (maybe 3) for the number of arguments between a recruits family and staff to spread around to other recruits and staff. And that is when the fan base will reject the practice. Because it either has teeth with no principle. Or principle with selective teeth.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 8:07 am
Posted on 8/1/22 at 8:35 am to meansonny
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Are his coaches committed? Are they never going to leave these kids (i.e. not even before signing day?) Is his support staff committed? Are they never going to leave these kids (i.e. not even before signing day?).
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Once again, he is not FORCING them to commit early, in fact he is advocating against that. IN most cases the commitments are done the year before, and fully 90% of coaches stay in place over that time, so you are basing this argument on the outlier.
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Are these kids lives static? Family members health will never change? Girlfriends will never change? Personal ambitions will never change?
This is a big decision, once again though, what Venables is saying is MORE beneficiary to the kids. Work your shite out go through all of the issues and THEN commit. What you are saying is actually and argument FOR what he does.
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Before you answer, you already have 6 commits for 2024... have they even been permitted to take their officials yet?
Oh really? Please list OU's '24 commits.
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Edit to add... it takes about 2 years (maybe 3) for the number of arguments between a recruits family and staff to spread around to other recruits and staff. And that is when the fan base will reject the practice. Because it either has teeth with no principle. Or principle with selective teeth.
Not even sure where you are trying to go with this.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 8:40 am to C W
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I just agree with it and obviously so do a lot of other people
So, if “a lot of other people” tell you that 2+2=5, then it must be true?
I can’t believe I’m defending OU, but, it is asinine to think that Venables is being hypocritical.
He is only asking kids not to commit to OU until they are 100% sure about that commitment.
Do you really believe that Venables would pull an offer from a kid after giving him an offer and after the kid accepts? That would be the only way he would be being hypocritical.
Please name ONE, just ONE, college football coach that STOPS (OR HAVE STOPPED IN THE PAST) RECRUITING after receiving a commitment from ANY player.
Do you really believe that Pat Dye stopped recruiting RBs after Bo Jackson committed to going to Auburn?
Posted on 8/1/22 at 8:49 am to Sooner a Reb
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Once again, he is not FORCING them to commit early, in fact he is advocating against that
Lol
You ignore all of the issues with the practice (and all of the obvious future headaches created by the practice) and rely solely on the principle that this 51 year old salesman (which is his job... to sell OU) is not putting a gun to the head of 17 year olds.
He is basically/unofficially stripping the kids rights to visit before the kids are officially required to do so (national letter of intent when they sign away their rights to the university).
And when circumstances change (because the support staff and coaches want promotions elsewhere and these 17 year olds kids lives change with their underwear), the kids will not be prepared to adjust because of Venables "honor" code.
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