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re: So, Bama fans, Sark or Lane as the best OC...

Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18302 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 9:05 pm to
Kiffin also had Derrick Henry and OJ Howard.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26952 posts
Posted on 6/19/21 at 11:29 pm to
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That said, Sarkisian may be the best play caller I've seen in college football,


The 4th down play vs Florida where Forristal stopped his motion and took the snap and ran a sneak while Jones was looking at the bench was pure genius. So simple, but when had you ever seen it done before?
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
6903 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 5:26 am to
Wonder what Nick would say if honest...
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 6:32 am to
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Wonder what Nick would say if honest...


If honest he would probably say their success at Bama is a result of his ability to recruit great athletes.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 6:45 am to
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I think Sark ran a far more organized offense. He didn’t waste snaps.

The genius of Kiffin was his ability to set you up for a big play he had in the back pocket but it involved wasting snaps.


This right here. I don’t think Kiffin wasted snaps, but he ran plays specifically to set up a killshot. That killshot was almost always there when he called it, unfortunately because this isn’t Xbox they didn’t always connect, which resulted in lots of points but also long stretches of 3 and outs.

Sark had a killshot potential on every play that would not always be there, but when it wasn’t there were multiple options for positive gains so far less 3 and outs.

Kiffin is brilliant but Sark’s consistency puts him on top to me.
Posted by CrimsonClover
Member since Oct 2020
1063 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 7:15 am to
I’ll take Lane Kiffin. Much more unpredictable. Really creative, and always had a trick up his sleeve.

Like others have said, this past year Sark seemed amazing, but we were ridiculously loaded on offense.

Last year Sark got completely outclassed by Joe Brady...

We’ll see how he does, but I’d be more worried about facing Kiffin at Ole Miss than Sark at Texas
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75313 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 7:37 am to
Sark but Kiffin did do some great things too.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11110 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 8:23 am to
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Last year Sark got completely outclassed by Joe Brady...

Not prior to the Tua injuries.

Before he goes down the first time that offense was taking whatever they wanted.

LSU was a better team due to the defense being suspect and injuries, but the offense was next to unstoppable from an efficiency standpoint and every bit as good or better than LSU until Tua got dinged IMO.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64889 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 8:44 am to
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Last year Sark got completely outclassed by Joe Brady...


LSU outgained Alabama by 18 yards in that game.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 10:08 am to
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Last year Sark got completely outclassed by Joe Brady...


Every time you put out a take, I think it is the worst I will see and then you manage to top it.

For starters, Brady and Sark did not go head to head.

With that out of the way, LSU had 559 yards of offense. Alabama had 541. Neither defense effectively stopped the opposing offense all night. The entire difference in the game was Tua just plain dropping the ball untouched inside the LSU 10 and then throwing a terrible decision interception at his own 25 with 11 fricking seconds to go in the half.

So yeah, blame Sark.
Posted by jthomas666
Member since Jul 2008
386 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:43 am to
Lane was good, but he often got too cute for his own good.

Sark was on a higher plane of existence this past season. Yeah, he had the talent to work with, but the way he schemed to get people open, to set up defender, was unreal.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52194 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:55 am to
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The entire difference in the game was Tua just plain dropping the ball untouched inside the LSU 10 and then throwing a terrible decision interception at his own 25 with 11 fricking seconds to go in the half.



I see a lot of Bammers clamor about the fumble but they ignore the fact that Burrow had his own fumble later in the game that gave Alabama the ball in much better field position than LSU got from the Tua fumble.

The interception was a killer, so was the penalty on Dickerson on that play.

Luckily for LSU, they had a big lead since they made about 3 boneheaded plays in that game that directly led to Alabama touchdowns.

Usually, you lose a game when you do that.
This post was edited on 6/20/21 at 11:56 am
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
1896 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 2:17 pm to
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Last year Sark got completely outclassed by Joe Brady...


Brady had the benefit of planning against a defense with 5 of 11 positions manned by true freshmen

(edited for accuracy)
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 1:01 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52194 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 2:22 pm to
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Brady had the benefit of planning against a defense with over half the positions manned by true freshmen


Well that isn't true.
Posted by 5Wide
Member since Jun 2013
1918 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:08 pm to
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Which to me is the interesting question about Sark would be if he can duplicate his success at Texas, without Saban recruiting.



Saban's culture is the thing Sark will miss the most. Texas is always the most talented team in the Big 12 but their players are softer than baby shite.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:09 pm to
Lane is more naturally gifted in terms of recognition and ability to exploit it. Sark is a better planner and organizer.

Lane can see something at field level and exploit it immediately. Sark is more of a meticulous builder of one thing on another type of guy.

Both are incredible.
This post was edited on 6/20/21 at 4:10 pm
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:35 pm to
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topcat88


Take off the p&g glasses, dickwhistle
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:38 pm to
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Burrow had his own fumble later in the game that gave Alabama the ball in much better field position than LSU got from the Tua fumble.


The Tua fumble was At the LSU 8. There’s a fair chance he runs it in for a TD and a better chance hits the open DeVonta Smith for a TD. At the very least it is a PAT distance FG. It wasn’t about setting LSU up - it flat out took points off the board for Alabama when the score was 0-0. In tennis match games, service breaks are the difference and Bama double faulted.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17133 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:46 pm to
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Lane is more naturally gifted in terms of recognition and ability to exploit it. Sark is a better planner and organizer.

Lane can see something at field level and exploit it immediately. Sark is more of a meticulous builder of one thing on another type of guy.

Both are incredible.


I was trying to find these words.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:55 pm to
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Well that isn't true.


It isn't true, but it isn't off by much.

By the time of the game, injuries had pushed true freshmen Christian Harris, Jordan Battle, DJ Dale, and Shane Lee into starting roles. Brady and Burrow had them (particularly the linebackers) for lunch.
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