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re: Small sports starting to react
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:01 am to Smokeyone
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:01 am to Smokeyone
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is a privilege,
This mentality has been so misapplied over the years that it has gotten painfully stupid to hear.
Just about everything in life is a fricking privilege. Just because something is optional, doesn’t mean it should be left alone with the tip of a cap.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:01 am to tiggerthetooth
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Playing sports in high school and younger is one thing, but after that we should encourage people to get going.
Horrible take. How does playing sports preclude someone from “getting going?”
Most small sport athletes already know they have no pro future. Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have the opportunity to further refine the skills of discipline, commitment, teamwork, and physical prowess while in college.
Not every job in the world necessitates being a desk jockey
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:03 am to bamabaseballsec
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To be fair small sport students and the grandparents won't have a sport to watch at all if football isn't footing the bill.
Odd, I remember all these small sports existing before football became insanely profitable.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:17 am to MrWalkingMan
But they don't have to do it with the large flows of money being expended. People who like getting up on a Saturday to play club-level rugby during college aren't getting more than a shoestring budget.
sports =/= sports business
sports =/= sports business
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:30 am to Jrv2damac
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This mentality has been so misapplied over the years that it has gotten painfully stupid to hear. Just about everything in life is a fricking privilege. Just because something is optional, doesn’t mean it should be left alone with the tip of a cap.
I played in those non revenue sports. While enjoyable, the overwhelming majority of those that participate would not be harmed by dropping them. I was ranked nationally in foil and better than most with an epee while in college. And I know this will shock you but most southern universities or colleges don’t have funded fencing programs. So for meets we had to travel a good bit. Bowling was the a little better but bigger meets we traveled. We loaded up the passenger van and took turns driving if everyone couldn’t afford a plane ticket. The school paid for hotels and fees but we bought our own food, non sponsored equipment, and transportation.
When I go back to events or meet up with old teammates, not a single one is making a dime off the sports. A couple of us passed love of those sports to our kids(my daughter prefers to saber now over the foil) but that’s it.
Now they majority that took it seriously ended up being driven, successful folks but the school shutdown both the bowling and fencing programs a long time ago.
It was a privilege to play at some of the highest levels of the sports I loved. It provided an outlet for people like me that loved competing were were not good enough to play a revenue sport. I was fortunate enough to participate in Olympic trials (very early) and train with some of the best fencers in the country. But I could have devoted that time to rugby or cricket and not traveled and had no idea what I was missing.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:34 am to Auburn80
All I can say is "if" college football goes to these so-called mega conferences with 22+ teams, I'm probably losing interest and checking out. It is probably going to happen and I'm probably about done with watching it. 2024 should be fun, but after that, goodness sakes alive.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:40 am to Sooner1984
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All I can say is "if" college football goes to these so-called mega conferences with 22+ teams, I'm probably losing interest and checking out
Why? Are you that enamored with cupcakes that if college football goes to a true division I with actual oversight and scheduling by a body other than the NCAA that you are out?
Because scheduling would be the biggest change. And in reality scheduling should be done by either the conference or a superior agency. 44-68 teams with realistic schedules would really be an improvement if done consistently
Posted on 8/13/23 at 12:12 pm to Smokeyone
There is always the possibility that the administrators recognize these issues as problems and adopt some new arrangements to solve them.
There are already hybrid conferences for some sports. Here in the Big XII we have all kinds of non football members who participate in wrestling.
There are already hybrid conferences for some sports. Here in the Big XII we have all kinds of non football members who participate in wrestling.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 12:20 pm to Gunga Din
1) Olympic Sports in PAC were already traveling by plane - 2 hours from WA to So Cal - now it’s a longer plane ride
2) They could try to align for football and keep the original conference alignment for other sports.
2) They could try to align for football and keep the original conference alignment for other sports.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 12:30 pm to Auburn80
Who would've thought, the regional basis of conferences had benefits??
Posted on 8/13/23 at 12:39 pm to El Segundo Guy
Here’s another part of the problem. Many universities keep our Olympic sports going. (And the USA is always at or near the top at the Olympics).Hopefully, all the sports not named football can continue their geographic conference footprint.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 4:30 pm to VU fan 43
Track guys at Oregon (one of the best in the nation - although no one will ever accomplish what Arkansas had done) and Washington (8 guys under 4 minutes for a mile this year) are worried. Travel to the east is not easy and takes time. No rivalries or fast races at Stanford either. Query whether track will in five years become only viable at the schools with the top 25 football programs. Rest assured Arkansas will be one of the them. I get many don't like track, but McDonnell brought guys in who were not D1 quality athletes as walk-ons and made them NCAA champions (he had great recruited guys too). That legacy won't go away - I ran against Arkansas at Penn Relays - got dusted despite running a top 10 time. Much respect.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 4:45 pm to Auburn80
FTR
I hate realignment
I hate super conference
I hate current structure of NIL
I hate transfer portal even though Alabama has benefitted from it
I hate realignment
I hate super conference
I hate current structure of NIL
I hate transfer portal even though Alabama has benefitted from it
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