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Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:00 am
Posted by GeauxTigers1983
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Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:00 am
I know this is the last year with CBS and the SEC. I can't understand why CBS decided to give the BIG10 all of that money and drop the SEC. Anyone know why? Did the relationship with CBS and SEC get sour? I am definitely gonna miss watching the games on CBS.
Posted by SpurandBlue
Member since Jan 2023
410 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:02 am to
They didnt have a choice after we left.

Our ABC/espn slots will largely dominate them with rare acceptions for their big games.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26498 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:02 am to
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I am definitely gonna miss watching the games on CBS.


People will shite on CBS in this thread. People will also shite on ESPN.

People are full of shite.
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
2257 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:02 am to
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I can't understand why CBS decided to give the BIG10 all of that money and drop the SEC. Anyone know why?


From what I was told, Gary Danielson was upset with some tRant comments over the last few seasons and made the request.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41213 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:08 am to
frick the fricking networks. Them and their money is ruining college athletics.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54621 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:13 am to
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I am definitely gonna miss watching the games on CBS.


they had the best production


quote:

I can't understand why CBS decided to give the BIG10 all of that money and drop the SEC.


I keep saying it, maybe it will sink in

B1G = Lots of people live in the footprint and lots of living alumni
SEC = Best product but fewer people and fewer living alumni

Lots of folks buy a McDonalds hamburger because they are everywhere and the advertise it to death. Does not mean they make a good hamburger (at least not since the 1960's or 1970's).
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:15 am to
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Did the relationship with CBS and SEC get sour?


The relationship should have always been sour with the peanuts $55MPY the SEC got from the Commercials Broadcasting Company. $55M divided by 15 (SEC Office gets a share) is $3.67M per school. Bama was shown the maximum 5 times every year so they got $733K per game. If they had the TV rights to those games, they could have received $3.67M per game.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12084 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:32 am to
Too many Beth Mowins fans on the rant. They preferred her to Gary.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42392 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:42 am to
Cbs had a great deal with sec for a long time
They were stealing from sec
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10579 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:43 am to
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The SEC chose to go all-in on ESPN, and you can expect ESPN will fully commit to pumping up the conference. The network became a valuable partner in the conference’s rollout of the SEC Network in 2014.

The SEC's deal with ESPN provides value beyond a figure on a ledger. But even as ESPN helps ensure the SEC retains a hold on the spotlight, the conference may grow envious of the Big Ten’s media rights war chest.


The Tennessean
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30966 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:49 am to
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Did the relationship with CBS and SEC get sour?


umm yea.

when the league added teams and wanted to renegotiate based on increased inventory, more states etc.....CBS told the SEC to take a hike, contract is a contract

so this time when the negotiating window opened, SEC told CBS take a hike bitch, rememeber when you fricked us over the last 10 years....well you dont even get a chance now.

CBS has to have something to fill those time slots, they need inventory. Next best place is the big10 who happened to have negotiations open. they jumped on it.


i will say i will miss cbs but they fricked every school in the conference for over a decade now.

I do like how the big10 did things. taking on multiple partners and really making them bid against 1 another, but there is certainly value in having ESPN, the undisputed king, having exclusive rights to your games. Allows more channels and we will be hyped more.
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 1:25 pm
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2115 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 9:50 am to
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I know this is the last year with CBS and the SEC. I can't understand why CBS decided to give the BIG10 all of that money and drop the SEC. Anyone know why? Did the relationship with CBS and SEC get sour? I am definitely gonna miss watching the games on CBS.
Yes, the relationship between the conference and CBS got sour after the 2012 expansion. CBS was already getting a steal for their exclusive time slot at $54 million, so, when A&M and Missouri joined, the SEC asked CBS to increase their payment so that the pro rata share for the now 14 team league would not drop as a result of expansion. CBS declined to do that, their only concession being to allow the future SEC Network to televise a game during their previously exclusive window. Mike Slive was pissed.

How much of that carried over to the recent contract negotiations is hard to say. I think CBS offered more than ESPN ($300 million) for the 2:30 timeslot, but, for whatever reason, Sankey chose to put all our eggs in the ESPN basket (the primary excuse was that it would give us more flexibility in scheduling -- we'll see about that starting in 2024).
Posted by GeauxTigers1983
Ponchatoula
Member since Sep 2015
561 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 10:54 am to
Sad part in all of this is CBS doesn't get first pick of games in the BIG10 deal. That belongs to Fox. CBS sacrificed the SEC to pay all that money to the BIG10 and they don't even get first pick of games which means they will be likely stuck with bad match ups like Rutgers vs Indiana.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 11:05 am
Posted by GeauxTigers1983
Ponchatoula
Member since Sep 2015
561 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:00 am to
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B1G = Lots of people live in the footprint and lots of living alumni


I get your point but College Football Fans aren't just built from Alumni. Some of it is just College Football fans in general that love to see good football.

SEC obviously gives that year in and year out. The TV ratings with SEC competition trumps BIG10 over the last 10-15 years. Better competition means better ratings.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46439 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:01 am to
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frick the fricking networks. Them and their money is ruining college athletics.

They’re just spending what they have in a product they want. Blame the University presidents for continuing to sell to the highest bidder and passing the buck to the next decade as the sport becomes more diluted, more NFL-lite, and more stratified. They could have taken a longterm view and said they’d sell the rights but only so long as certain conditions were met to maintain the integrity of the sport. Instead, they’ve engaged in a four decades long perpetual bidding war that’s sitting atop a ticking time bomb of litigation that will eventually end in athletes becoming classified as employees (by which time most of the Presidents who built the bomb will be dead)
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 11:04 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54621 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:11 am to
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I get your point but College Football Fans aren't just built from Alumni.


Correct, but math is fact not fiction


Say State averages 20K students a year and Ohio State averages 50K


In 10 years that is 200K vs 500K, in 20 it is 400K vs 1 Million


In addition it is population of a state, most of the B1G footprint are in the Top 5 to Top 15 of the 50 states. Those folks are going to see folks in their area get on TV so the eyeballs add up.

TX is #2 but split between SEC and B12
FL is #3 but split between SEC and ACC
GA is #8 but split between SEC and ACC

#6, #7, #10 are all B1G monopolies
#4 and #5 are near B1G monopolies


With looking I am guessing most of the SEC schools (especially where they have the monopoly) are in the Top 20's and Top 30's
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13069 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:12 am to
I am glad we are getting ABC/ESPN. The production quality of ABC games is superior, IMO, to CBS. Better announcers too. And I thought ABC/ESPN outbid CBS for SEC rights.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3898 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:33 am to
Actually, the three networks (Fox, CBS, ESPN) will hold a "draft" for games.

Link to article-

CBS

I do think the interesting thing the Big 10 will do is have a NFL-style broadcast schedule on Saturday, with Fox at noon, CBS at 3:30 and NBC at 7:30 or 8:00.
This post was edited on 2/16/23 at 11:37 am
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3100 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:44 am to
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I can't understand why CBS decided to give the BIG10 all of that money and drop the SEC. Anyone know why?


The people at CBS know what they are doing. They have the best people to advise them who study this shite and know their audience.
They studied it and saw that the B1G was the better brand and would not only bring them a bigger audience but also a better audience with more money to spend on advertisements.
The B1G has locked down a nationwide audience and is in a mood to expand.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9181 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:47 am to
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the B1G was the better brand

Yep. The onfield results prove it.
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