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re: SEC is 1-4 this bowl season
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:28 am to Mohican
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:28 am to Mohican
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There’s a damn good explanation for this
FIFY.
It takes money to win and the B1G gets vastly more TV money per school than the SEC. It was inevitable that this would happen. This is our future thanks to our shitty corrupt commissioner.
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Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:33 am to ColoradoElkHerd
Glad to see SEC fans coming around to the truth that the Big 10 is the new sheriff in town.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:40 am to dawgfan24348
If Indiana wails on Alabama, it’s hard to argue
God forbid if UGA/ole Miss lose before the championship too
God forbid if UGA/ole Miss lose before the championship too
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:48 am to dawgfan24348
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I've been saying this for a minute now and got down voted each time but the SEC is nowhere as good as it used to be, NIL has changed the game.
I think the depth of the conference is more shallow than the past 20 years.
LSU, Tennessee, Florida and Auburn have gone through rough patches but it won't stay that way. The SEC is already tough enough but when the above mentioned teams improve, there will be at least 9 to 10 teams that will make the SEC the deepest, toughest conference as it usually is the 9 game conference schedule will be brutal.
You are correct. NIL and the portal have changed the game. Eventually we will reach a new homeostasis but with a few losses and additions to the old guard.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:14 am to TexasWranglers
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Maybe, maybe not but with opt outs for the non playoff bowls it’s impossible to gauge any teams post season.
Every team has opt outs
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:21 am to dawgfan24348
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Not counting the Bama Oklahoma game as they played each other. I've been saying this for a minute now and got down voted each time but the SEC is nowhere as good as it used to be, NIL has changed the game.
Bama can win the natty but Georgia is still the conferences best shot to snap it's longest title drought since 2015
The SEC dominated a good portion of two decades...this may just be a return to normalcy, unfortunately. The mega-conference was a terrible idea. 9 game conference schedules are gonna be interesting. Bama just likely played a harder schedule than any one that Saban ever had to navigate...and its only gonna get worse
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:26 am to dawgfan24348
We nearly beat a 10 win Houston team with half our team out and lame duck coaches, also scored by far the most we have all season on a P4 team 
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:26 am to ClemsonKitten
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Every team has opt outs
Houston did not, in fact the commentators made that point over and over again
Edit - they did have 1 starter not play but unclear whether he was an opt out or just kicked off the team right now; he "left the team" in early December
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 7:31 am
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:34 am to dawgfan24348
I’m old enough to remember when the SEC kind of had to fight and claw for national respect so I can understand the regional pride thing.
That said, the successes of the past 25-30 years did result in some big-headed arrogance and collectively thinking your shite didn’t stink.
So in that respect, getting knocked down a few pegs from the high horse probably will serve you better in the long run as a reminder and motivator that some good football is played in other parts of the country too.
That said, the successes of the past 25-30 years did result in some big-headed arrogance and collectively thinking your shite didn’t stink.
So in that respect, getting knocked down a few pegs from the high horse probably will serve you better in the long run as a reminder and motivator that some good football is played in other parts of the country too.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:44 am to ColoradoElkHerd
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It takes money to win and the B1G gets vastly more TV money per school than the SEC. It was inevitable that this would happen. This is our future thanks to our shitty corrupt commissioner.
TV money is paid out directly to schools who can now revenue share up to 20+ million. Every school in the SEC receives more than that from the TV contracts. No advantage to the B10 or anyone with that cap.
Outside of the school revenue sharing NIL agreements can still be made via a third party using the fair market loophole as it is called. TV money has no part of this and there is no cap on that.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 7:46 am
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:46 am to dawgfan24348
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the SEC is nowhere as good as it used to be
I'm curious how many starters for each opted out before the bowl?
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:48 am to 1BIGTigerFan
That one win was vs a G5 team too.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:50 am to dawgfan24348
Bottomline is we arent the top conference and if we dont acknowledge it we will just fall further behind
Posted on 12/31/25 at 8:43 am to dawgfan24348
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Not counting the Bama Oklahoma game as they played each other. I've been saying this for a minute now and got down voted each time but the SEC is nowhere as good as it used to be, NIL has changed the game.
I agree with the poster (SummerofGeorge?) that said with opt outs, bowls are not a good barometer of conference strengths.
When you add that in almost every case SEC teams have played higher ranked teams the losses seem to take focus. I mean when you have a team that finished 8th in the SEC (Missouri) loses to the team that finished 2nd in the ACC (Virginia) but lost by 6 points?
Go back and check and see how the matchups were. It starts to make more sense. Nobody makes the case that the SEC's #8 is better than the ACC's #2. Now match up Alabama with Virginia and see what you would get.
Match ups make a big difference.
The only time it makes a difference is #8 in the B1G (Illinois) played #9 in SEC (Tennessee) and, as expected was a very close game. Plus, Tennessee had so many key opt outs. (I honestly don't know if Illinois had a bunch of opt outs)
Found it:Illinois had two key players opt out of the Music City Bowl in edge rusher Gabe Jacas and offensive tackle J.C. Davis, both expected to be NFL draft picks.
Tennessee has 11 players who will not play in the bowl game because of opt-out or entering the transfer portal. Key players missing include wide receiver Chris Brazzell (SEC receiving yards leader), edge rusher Joshua Josephs (team's top pass rusher), linebacker Arion Carter (team's leading tackler) and cornerback Colton Hood (All-SEC). Other Vols who will not play include: CB Jermod McCoy (NFL draft); RB Peyton Lewis (portal); QB Jake Merklinger (portal); DB Marcus Goree (portal); LB Brenden Anes (portal); DL Jamal Wallace (portal) and DL Kellen Lindstrom (portal).
A bit of a difference, huh?
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:02 am to DawgsLife
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When you add that in almost every case SEC teams have played higher ranked teams the losses seem to take focus.
This plays a factor more than anything and the SEC schools are still right there in contention to win the games even with the significant opt outs.
Meaningless Bowls:
L - #19 UVA (ACC #2) 13 vs Mizzou (SEC #8) 7
L - Illinois (Big 10 #7) 30 vs Tennessee (SEC #9) 28
L - #21 Houston 38 (Big 12 #4) vs LSU (SEC #10) 35
Playoffs:
W/L - #9 Bama (SEC #2) 34 @ #8 OU (SEC #6) 24
W - #6 Ole Miss (SEC #3) 41 vs #20 Tulane (AAC Champ) 10
L - #10 Miami 10 (ACC #3) @ #7 A&M (SEC #4) 3
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 9:09 am
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:25 am to Mohican
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There’s no real good explanation for this. Even with NIL the complete flipping of the script by the Big-10 is remarkable.
I think the B1G has always had comparable coaching to the SEC. You would get to bowl games and there would just be 1-2 more top level athletes on the upper/mid level teams as compared to the B1G. Most of the bowl games between the B1G and SEC would be competitive for the entire 2000s-2020s.
Now I think you can say the coaching in the B1G is as good/better as the SEC and they have some of those athletes in the conference.
It's not across the board of course, but Illinois and Tenn. are about as even as you will get. Ill was tied for 7th in the B1G at 5-4 in conference and Tenn was tied for 8th at 4-4. You saw that type of game go back and forth and end on a last second kick.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:28 am to DownSouthJukin
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Yet we’ve ended up at the same place as UGA this weekend
One team ended up there with an SEC title and a coach with two national championships.
The other beat Tulane.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:30 am to DawgsLife
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A bit of a difference, huh?
No one is forcing teams with more opt outs to play in the bowl game. Notre Dame bailed out on a game and I don’t think their fans give a shite.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 9:31 am
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:30 am to dawgfan24348
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Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:37 am to Slums_Alum
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No one is forcing teams with more opt outs to play in the bowl game.
Nobody said they were forced. Only that the opt outs made a difference.
And at least the SEC teams didn't cry foul, complain and quit. No offense, but that is exactly what ND did.
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