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re: SEC Final Grades and Tier Levels 2024

Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:21 am to
Posted by DAWG0829
Dallas,Ga
Member since Oct 2012
1685 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:21 am to
Ole miss 10 Million
reasons why they are a C ua , They are building and will be an
A soon there is room
since Bama and LSU are
done
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
2263 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:22 am to
Texas 11-2 (even) - not ua

We expected to

*beat Michigan
*beat the three rivals
*lose to Georgia
*make the SEC CCG


Did all those. We hoped to

*win the SEC
*make a deep run in the CFP

We failed the first, and it remains to be seen on the second.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64781 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Bama 9-3 (ua, though maybe even) ... this is what getting off heroin probably feels like


If we're talking about just coaching, I give Bama an A this year. DeBoer fielded a team that should have been selected for the playoffs while being greatly hindered by an entitled QB who I hope either transfers or figures out how to be coachable during the offseason.
Posted by DBird
Member since Nov 2023
881 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:22 am to
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if anyone should complain about OOC scheduling


I would complain too if this was my OOC slate

WKU
USF
WISC
Mercer
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9342 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:26 am to
Auburn was just 22 bad bounces and 14 unlucky Peyton Thorne interceptions away from being 9-3. They are a program on the rise!
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
2025 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:26 am to
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7-5 in someone’s 3rd season isn’t considered overachieving anywhere but Vandy


Kelly and Kiffin extended Napier's shelf life with their own chokes, but an 8 win season is probably his ceiling.

Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16538 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:28 am to
Only the Sec champion gets an A, tier 1.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
2025 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:33 am to
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If we're talking about just coaching


But we're not talking about just coaching...

Someone at Bama pocketed the Learfield kickback and you are stuck with a Texas run clearing house for the next decade.
(The majority of the staff are Texans)

I don't expect Bama to be a step above anyone anymore.
Posted by Mizzouligan
St. Louis, MO
Member since Aug 2014
2408 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:38 am to
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F



There’s my bitch. You talked so much shite about how oU was going to do great this summer. Your tears are delicious.
Posted by Old1937
Member since Jun 2024
1409 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:43 am to
I would like sometime to have a real discussion with no trash talk about why A & M always underachieves, It is a real Question
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
20176 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:04 am to
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I would like sometime to have a real discussion with no trash talk about why A & M always underachieves, It is a real Question

quote:

I would like sometime to have a real discussion with no trash talk about why A & M always underachieves, It is a real Question

I think it's pretty simple actually.

They need a good Quarterback and a good Defense, but they haven't had both at the same time.

Sumlin ultimately had the Quarterbacks.. and in 2012, they had the defense too, just some back luck when they put it all together, it was too late. It slowly went downhill from there because he didn't have Sherman's recruits in the trenches anymore.

Fisher had Elko and the defense.. but he never had the QB. Mond was pretty good as a Senior in 2020, but that team was good.. but not great. They benefitted big time from the covid crowds imo. Elko left and it all fell apart.. no QB and no Defense.

I don't believe Elko is calling plays on defense, but I do think he plays a good scheme, so I think they'll eventually get there on defense. Idk if Klein is the answer at OC.. as ultimately it will be tough to find a QB who is willing to be a battering ram on offense. On top of that, they are horrible on the OL right now, so they need to get that fixed first.

1) Fix the OL
2) Find a Good QB
3) Play Elko's Defense

Sounds simple, but it will take several years to make it work. Does Elko survive if he never makes the playoff in the 1st 5 years?
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
10265 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:15 am to
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Are you sure?

Lost the whole offense (JD5) and OC

Did not upgrade personnel on defense but added a better DC to an all time historically bad defense.

Started a 1st yr starter at QB with a 1st yr OC

I don’t know what people were smoking but LSU finished where they should have.


Are you LSU fans being serious?

You were ranked 13th in the preseason. You had the 8th most talented composite roster per 247 and the 7th most talented per On3. Your fans spent the entire offseason roaring about how you hired Baker away from Mizzou and would have an elite defense this season. Your own coach proclaimed that 2024 was LSU's breakout year, and I am happy to link the lengthy Tiger Rant thread about it if needed.

And here are the preseason predictions from your own fans:

quote:

LSU

SouthernInsanity - 11-1
tigeraddict - 9-3
hg - 9-3
DamnStrong - 12-0
Draco Malfoy - 10-2
Tigerswillprevail - 10-2
LSUsuperfresh - 9-3
Lsupimp - 10-2
Tiger 79 - 10-2
ecb - 10-2
Jenar Boy - 9-3
fr33manator - 10-2
rmnldr - 9-3
udtiger - 9-3
Tiger Live2 - 10-2
BlueFalcon - 10-2
grizzlylongcut - 9-3
Bryno1960 - 10-2
USAFTiger42 - 9-3
North Dallas Tiger - 9-3
charlesmartinmike - 11-1
TigerinKorea - 11-1
GeorgeWest - 9-3
tiger_nutz - 11-1
goodgrin - 10-2
AmIDonut - 11-1
TexasTiger24 - 8-4
TigerDenWest - 11-1
Sissidog02 - 10-2
TigerWoodlands - 9-3
adam32 - 10-2
WC HICK - 9-3
Draconian Sanctions - 10-2
mtb010 - 9-3
Big Bang Rookie - 11-1
FearDaStripes - 10-2
nicholastiger - 9-3
swamp74 - 10-2
lsuman25 - 10-2
kajunman - 8-4
Toadfrggy82 - 11-1
BeatBamaBad - 10-2
idlewatcher - 9-3
TNTigerman - 10-2
Tigerlaff - 9-3
Run DMC - 10-2
Carter - 9-3
Old Money - 9-3
Jake88 - 8-4
308 - 12-0
Tiger Live2 - 10-2
fr33manator - 11-1
TheDeathValley - 10-2
Irish Knuckles - 9-3
ForeverLSU5 - 10-2
zadams_318 - 11-1
dallastiger55 - 11-1
WilliamTaylor21 - 17-0 because his dumbass doesn't understand 1st round byes


Exactly three of you predicted 8-4. Nobody, not one fan predicted worse than 8-4. 55 of you predicted better than 8-4. Lots of 11-1 in there. And yet I keep seeing your fans act like 8-4 was somehow expected despite the fact that literally 95% of you expected a better season than that.

And that would be fine, but I've seen several threads shitting all over Mizzou for a 9-3 season.
Posted by Mizzoustance
Akron, OH
Member since Nov 2019
465 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:36 am to
As a Mizzou alum, I feel that 9-3 was a B season for them. Mizzou doesn't win 9 games very often, with a chance at 10. Disappointed because expectations were high but reality said we'd have to win on the road at SC, BAMA, or A&M, and we didn't. Solid B
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
22064 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:52 am to
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BreakawayZou83


How dare you bring facts and evidence into a thread like this.
Posted by theballguy
Huntsville Alabama
Member since Oct 2011
36146 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:07 pm to
These days, every team lives and dies by its QB. Milroe's issue has been consistency. That being said, his skillset just doesn't match up to what DeBoer is supposed to be good at offensively. I really hope he's working on making his offense work with another QB.
Posted by bamaoldtimer
Member since Dec 2009
1753 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:31 pm to
My most puzzling opinion of this year is why DeBoer and his staff failed to adapt after the Vandy game and continued the same old same old.

I leave this year asking, “ Is DeBoer and his staff up to competing with Sarkisian, Smart, Huepel, Kelly,Kiffan , Venerables not to say up and coming coaches like Beamer and you guessed it, “ Billy “fooled you” Napier.

There are a lot of really good Coaches and staffs in the SEC. As a fan who gives no money and whose opinions mean shite, I give him 3 more years to win an SEC championship and be back competing for Nattys.

This year could end up really well and honestly better than anticipated if we can beat Michigan.

I hope some of you loser fan bases can one day experience what Bama Nation feels after this year. If you somehow do, it means you would have won six National Championship's and lived through a Dynasty, You will have experienced what any fan wants to experience. VICTORY!

So, good luck to all the playoff teams this year. Remember that when Georgia wins it all, Bama beat them.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
69436 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:34 pm to
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Mizzou fans all offseason: “LSU sucks. 6-6 incoming. Laugh out loud!”

Mizzou fans in December: “LSU 8-4? Underachievers!”


Absolutely most retarded fans on this board.


I'm believing this more and more.

I wish the fans of our farm team were smarter.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
69436 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:37 pm to
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Your fans spent the entire offseason roaring about how you hired Baker away from Mizzou and would have an elite defense this season.


I stopped reading here as no one with a brain thought LSU's defense would be elite.

Most media predictions had LSU in the 9-3 or 8-4 area and they went 8-4.

No reason to lie.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
62014 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:46 pm to
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Bama 9-3 (ua, though maybe even) ... this is what getting off heroin probably feels like


Honestly? Most of the reasonable Alabama fans i saw, said they expected 2-3 losses. I think it's not the losses that hurt, but who the losses were to, and the way they happened that got to most Bama fans.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
50321 posts
Posted on 12/10/24 at 12:49 pm to
Underachieved for us



Losing to that Kentucky team is inexcusable for a $9 million coach
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