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re: SEC 4-1 in bowl games, 3 SEC teams play today, why it matters

Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:04 am to
Posted by tibebecolston
Member since Mar 2013
4134 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:04 am to
This will be the first time I’ve rooted for Bama since Sabans arrival. Well, I think I’ll be rooting for them, but once I turn the TV on the heart wants what it wants.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77965 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:06 am to
Totally agree. The better the teams do the better the whole conference is.
Posted by Goose
Member since Jan 2005
22276 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:07 am to
I don't pull for anu other team. I just watch and enjoy. Whoever wins, doesnt effect LSU at all.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16416 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:09 am to
2019 LSU is making a claim as GOAT. If the SEC can dominate in bowls it strengthens that argument. Other than that for this year, frick all the SEC programs.

Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13083 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:14 am to
I will pull for Auburn and UGA. I cannot pull for bama and bama losing 3 games in one year actually helps LSU, IMO.

SEC can finish 7-2 if we win the NC and AU/UGA win today. Bama can be that #2 loss which wont hurt the SEC image-wise at all.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:23 am to
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So far this season the SEC is 4-1 in bowl games with Florida, Kentucky, Texas A&M and LSU winning and Miss State losing. Alabama, Auburn and Georgia play in high profile matchups today, the Alabama Michigan game being one I want to watch.

There is a reason we should pull for SEC teams beyond conference pride. While there is no perfect way to prove which conference is best, bowl games provide the best barometer by pitting top teams from all the conferences against each other. Morethan conference pride is on the line, these games help determine which conferences playoff committee voters will favor next year and in years to come.

There are five major conferences and the other conferences want the committee to look at conference champions. This year, had LSU lost to Georgia in the SEC championship game, conference champions from the Big 12 and Pac conferences would have likely stayed home in favor of two SEC teams going, Georgia and LSU. That’s because, despite what coaches in other conferences say and think, knowledgeable people on the committee know the SEC is better and that a third place SEC team could win most other conferences. Alabama, Georgia, Florida and Auburn were all better teams than Oklahoma.

So we do not want the SEC to have a losing bowl record and give the committee fuel to believe the argument others advance that the other conferences are catching the SEC. I think if we go to an 8 team playoff guaranteeing a spot for the five conference champions, as it stands now the SEC would get 3 of the 8 spots and we do not want that to change.

It’s great to say LSU doesn’t need that because we won’t lose games in the future, but more realistic to think undefeated seasons in the SEC are rare.

So I will be pulling for Bama, Auburn and Ga to win today. As much as I hate Bama, i don’t want to hear Big 10 fans crowing if Michigan beats Bama, the SEC flagship team of the last decade up until this year. And, if possible, Harbaugh is a bigger dick than Saban, with a lot less reason to be.


Related to your post, several Football analyst such as Tebow on SECNetwork and SEC footprint media such as Josh Pate at Late Kick, and even Alabama media guys at WJOX in Birmingham and 100.9 in Tuscaloosa Tide fans have said LSU at 15-0 can make a claim for best team and season in modern college football.

With Florida winning the ORgange, they are 11-2. So if UGA, Bama and Auburn all win they will finish top 10 along with Florida. OU at 12-2 will finish top 10 and Clemson, again if LSU wins will be #2. LSU could then have 6 wins over the "Final AP/Coaches Poll top 10". That would be something that I am not sure has ever been done.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:30 am to
careful -- the "you can never root for another SEC team" tards will be coming after you.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:31 am to
frick SEC pride, we recruit against them I want them blown out by teams that don't recruit here
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:32 am to
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I don't pull for anu other team. I just watch and enjoy. Whoever wins, doesnt effect LSU at all.
wow, what a boring way to watch college football.

In most every game, I'm pulling for one team or the other. Not nearly with as much emotion as LSU, but it's pretty boring to watch a game with no rooting interest at all.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6490 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:42 am to
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I want Bama, Florida, Auburn to all finish top 10 so LSU can claim it beat at least 6 teams rated in the top 10 in the final polls.


Same. LSU is going for the best season in college football history.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:52 am to
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There are members of the committee with connections to other conferences. They will use any possible argument they can to push that the other conferences have caught the SEC, bowl games too. Why is that such an outrageous thought that invites a frick you post?

Because it's ridiculous to think that winning the Citrus Bowl would be a logical argument to put 11-1 Michigan into the playoff over a team that played for (and maybe even won) the National Championship.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31864 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:53 am to
We recruit against bama every day of every year. Every loss they have is better for us. Don’t be stupid. Don’t pull for bama.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 11:58 am to
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Because it's ridiculous to think that winning the Citrus Bowl would be a logical argument to put 11-1 Michigan into the playoff over a team that played for (and maybe even won) the National Championship.


worse, he seems to think Michigan winning the Citrus Bowl could help Ohio State or Penn State next year where as Alabama losing it could hurt LSU or UGA
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 12:19 pm to
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I will pull for Auburn and UGA. I cannot pull for bama and bama losing 3 games in one year actually helps LSU, IMO.

SEC can finish 7-2 if we win the NC and AU/UGA win today. Bama can be that #2 loss which wont hurt the SEC image-wise at all.



Agreed
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11580 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 12:32 pm to
Geaux Big Blue! I hope the other 2 SEC teams win though.
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
1880 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 12:32 pm to
I always pull for SEC teams. Even Bama in the natty’s we weren’t in.

If the conference is good it’s good for LSU. Better recruits, better talent, more respect nationwide.

I hope every SEC team wins their bowl games
Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
4651 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 12:35 pm to
I know this is a controversial topic, but I'm an SEC homer. I may hate the other teams during the year, but I want the SEC (especially the West) to represent in the bowl season). The better SEC teams do overall the better our argument that the SEC us the best and LSUs wins are more important than any other conference champs wins.
Posted by TigersCajuns
Earth
Member since Sep 2010
341 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 12:53 pm to
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We recruit against bama every day of every year. Every loss they have is better for us. Don’t be stupid. Don’t pull for bama.

It is sad that you have to spell that out for some folks
Posted by paper tiger
acadiana
Member since Feb 2006
1078 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 2:26 pm to
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worse, he seems to think Michigan winning the Citrus Bowl could help Ohio State or Penn State next year where as Alabama losing it could hurt LSU or UGA


You are taking it out of context.

I do believe if Minnesota and Michigan sweep Auburn and Alabama people will use this to claim the Big 10 has caught the SEC. In turn, I think that makes it harder for a second SEC team to make the playoffs.

Had LSU lost to Ga this year they would probably still have gotten in over two one loss conference champions because the committee gives so much weight to the SEC schedule.

I don’t see that as some wild or crazy theory. You can book it people everywhere outside the south would use Auburn and Alabama losses today to argue the SEC is not a dominant conference.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 2:47 pm to
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You can book it people everywhere outside the south would use Auburn and Alabama losses today to argue the SEC is not a dominant conference.

The SEC has taken 7 of the 24 (29%) playoff spots in the first 6 years of the CFP (8-4 record, 3 teams). The ACC is next with 6 (6-3, 2 teams). The BIG has 4 (2-3, 2 teams).

Again, if your hypothetical were to occur (11-1 Michigan and LSU), you really think they are leaving LSU out if they look at this year's results like you keep suggesting?

This post was edited on 1/1/20 at 2:48 pm
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