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re: Rumors swirling that Mississippi State vs Georgia might be canceled

Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:17 pm to
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I mentioned this in a thread a few days ago but exactly who is the accountability in verifying these contact trace protocol individuals are legitimate? I think the answer is no one, and you can tell the SEC whatever you want

Pretty sure the SEC schools are all using those lanyard/wrist devices like the NFL does and the data is sent to the SEC regarding contact tracing.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13390 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:18 pm to
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These should be forfeits.


Making LSU 4-4.

Florida and Arkansas (likely) forfeiting to us and us forfeiting to Bama. Also giving UGA the inside track to the SEC East title.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13390 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:19 pm to
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Pretty sure the SEC schools are all using those lanyard/wrist devices like the NFL does and the data is sent to the SEC regarding contact tracing.



This is true.

And then if they have less than 53 scholarship players, the SEC won't let them play no matter what they want, do, or say.

BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT CHICKEN
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:19 pm to
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It doesn't seem fair to take away a game from the team that doesn't have the covid issues

I have no idea how a school(s) would even be able to do this logistically with cancellations sometimes happening at the last minute, but the SEC did say that if there were, for instance, two games cancelled and two of the four teams were able to play, then they could then schedule a game between each other. I think that was addressed by Sankey along with adding 12/19 as an available date for schools to makeup games that aren't playing in the SECCG
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:25 pm to
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Forfeiture needed to be part of the original plan. It was the only way to endure teams who were no longer viable for playoffs would adhere to protocols.




No fricking way that will happen. The protocols are not absolute and you can not fault a team for catching the worse pandemic in a 100 years. The opposite of what you claim would be teams that are a viable position for the playoffs. They would not report positives if it jeopardized their playoff hopes.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:29 pm to
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And then if they have less than 53 scholarship players, the SEC won't let them play no matter what they want, do, or say.

I'm kind of wondering who is making the calls. The SEC, initially, has in their guidelines that if a school is under the 53, then they can choose to play, but I do wonder if the SEC isn't stepping in to be "proactive" for PR reasons of having a team try to play with 40 players right after a bunch of team mates were under a quarantine mandate. I just think the conference may think that is a bad look. I honestly have no idea. I'm just so over 2020. But, reports say that LSU had like 45 players available, and given some of those players are specialists, they'd be faced with having no backups at several positions and, IIRC, they had no long-snapper and no tight ends, and no backup QB. I'm all for getting games played, but I just don't know how you expect to put a team on the field in a college football game under those conditions. If people think a forfeit is warranted, fine, but I don't think a team with that few players should be playing a team with twice as many scholarship players available. Hell, I remember when Kiffin was at USC under scholarship sanctions and didn't even have full-contact at practice to avoid players getting hurt and not having enough healthy players to get through the season.

And are we really at the point where we're blaming teams for having to cancel a game based on players getting sick when our country is taking even more extreme measures in daily life?
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68491 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:32 pm to
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the worse pandemic in a 100 years.
Yeah that greater than 99% survival rate is horrible
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64549 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:40 pm to
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Yeah that greater than 99% survival rate is horrible


Regardless of opinions on the virus (I agree with you fwiw), the SEC still has to maintain a certain public image as well as having liability concerns. The league would get horrible backlash if they forced teams to forfeit games due to following COVID protocols that, more or less, mirror the CDC guidelines and even worse if they made teams play games with half their team quarantined. With all the heightened awareness with player safety, do you really think it would be a good idea or look for the league for teams to be faced with playing pseudo iron man football just to avoid a forfeit? The SEC (along with the ACC and Big12) led the charge for us even having a season this year, so just be thankful we've had any games because until late July, that didn't seem anywhere near a guarantee.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:41 pm to
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Yeah that greater than 99% survival rate is horrible



True , but that is not the message that the "Experts" are putting out there. The point is the NCAA is not going to do anything that is not PC. Quit sounding like a teenager who is not getting their way.
Posted by Pauldingtiger
Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
841 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 3:28 pm to
For teams that can’t get there Covid sh!t together just deduct that TV money from there check at the end of the season. They’ll start putting teams on the field.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90554 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 4:55 pm to
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Play the damn game.



Agree. If anything some backups and walk ons get to play and you gain depth long term.
Posted by ugacdawg
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2017
418 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 10:26 pm to
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fricking way that will happen. The protocols are not absolute and you can not fault a team for catching the worse pandemic in a 100 years.


Yeah, but the machine cannot just keep going. They are out of runway. At some point when you cannot make it up you forfeit. Sucks but as you say... unprecedented pandemic.

High schools are doing this now. Beginning of the season we’re just ‘no contests’ and they did or didn’t make them up. Now that playoffs are here is you cancel, you are done.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14908 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 12:42 am to
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Yeah that greater than 99% survival rate is horrible

Regardless of opinions on the virus (I agree with you fwiw), the SEC still has to maintain a certain public image as well as having liability concerns. The league would get horrible backlash if they forced teams to forfeit games due to following COVID protocols that, more or less, mirror the CDC guidelines and even worse if they made teams play games with half their team quarantined. With all the heightened awareness with player safety, do you really think it would be a good idea or look for the league for teams to be faced with playing pseudo iron man football just to avoid a forfeit? The SEC (along with the ACC and Big12) led the charge for us even having a season this year, so just be thankful we've had any games because until late July, that didn't seem anywhere near a guarantee.



What if the remaining games get cancelled and not enough to have a season? That is more likely if more are coming in the next few weeks.
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
11707 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 2:52 am to
Let Ole miss play UGA being MSU can't get their crap together..
Posted by MarcusATLSU
Just another Gump on the Gump Bus.
Member since Nov 2020
2207 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 6:54 am to
I find this weird because I've heard that Georgia along with Florid and Texas are the most open states as far as going against Covid lockdown. At least that what CNN has been saying. How is it they have not cancelled a game due to infections?

The trend seems to be if we're having a bad year, we're going to not play and we'll find an excuse to do that.

The contact tracing is utter non-sense.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20336 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 7:05 am to
So is there no actual legs to this rumor?
Posted by ugastudent
Member since Mar 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 7:14 am to
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So is there no actual legs to this rumor?


Supposedly State only has 54 players available because of injuries/opt outs/transfers and a couple of covid cases. Apparently if you alienate a quarter of your team, you can use it as an excuse to cancel the game. SEC needs to start withholding teams TV money when they cancel games.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13203 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 7:51 am to
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find this weird because I've heard that Georgia along with Florid and Texas are the most open states as far as going against Covid lockdown. At least that what CNN has been saying. How is it they have not cancelled a game due to infections?


I am against the cancelling as much as anyone but there have been numerous cancellations in the states of Florida and Texas already this year
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 8:05 am to
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Yep, need to make them forfeits from now on.


Well that’s not fair at all- you either forfeit them all or none not some random willy nilly week in the season.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7002 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:07 am to
The SECs ridgid scheduling doomed the season. Teams that are able to play shouldn't miss games. Cross division games should have been unscheduled wildcards.
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