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re: Rumor has it that the NCAA is considering a 9 game conference rule...

Posted on 5/2/19 at 11:20 am to
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29685 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 11:20 am to
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They don't and you've yet to make any type of case to back up your claim.


they absolutely do, in fact, they gave the power to make rules that determine who is eligible (ie probation)

don't be obtuse
Posted by GregoryPeck
Member since Feb 2014
132 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 11:47 am to
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this would actually work and there is a precedent, as ANY team that schedules a game AT Hawaii is allowed to schedule a 13th game per NCAA rules


Just to be clear.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7294 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:02 pm to
I wouldn't be surprised that they had backup teams in mind.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58071 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:27 pm to
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Who really wants to watch a P5 program play an FCS school.


FCS games aren't going away unless FCS games get banned. I don't know why some people seem to think that a 9th conference game would stop body bag games. All it would do is lessen the chance of good P5 v P5 games and neuter the ability for the better G5s to get good P5 matchups.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:37 pm to
Lol, nope. My point is if you have to play 9 SEC games then just play the worst OOC team you can find. Otherwise, you're giving teams in other conferences a built in advantage.
Posted by oliveandblue
Member since Nov 2014
1669 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:04 pm to
Look at the PAC-12 and the B1G. The ninth conference game is slaughtering the bottom half of that league.

Illinois tried to play 9 B1G + AAC + 2 MAC - and got humped for most of the year, finishing 4-8. 8 B1G with an extra soft game would have made 6-6, and a minor bowl game.

It's hard to sell tickets or interest if the team is getting fricking killed every season...
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:30 pm to
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That is factually wrong.
Each team can refuse the game.
Auburn did that about 10 years ago.

The kickoff classic doesn't want/need to scramble at the last minute to fix scheduling. So they listen very carefully to input from each team.


True, but by the same token a school doesn't want/need to scramble to fix scheduling because they refused the game. What they can do is quit scheduling neutral site games. Which is what Bama did when Orlando and Atlanta were unable to schedule better opposition than Louisville and Duke.

Their schedule was already made through 2021 when that decision was reached. You can bank on the holes in their future schedule being filled by H/H series. If not, there would be a third year open between the H/H series.

2019 - Duke (Atlanta)
2020 - USC (Dallas)
2021 - Miami (Atlanta)
2022 - @ Texas
2023 - Texas
2024 -
2025 -
2026 - @ West VA
2027 - West VA
2028 - @ Note Dame
2029 - Notre Dame
2030 -
2031 -
2032 - @ Oklahoma
2033 - Oklahoma

This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24333 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:52 pm to
It needs to be 9 with rotating opponents from the other teams by all teams. Get rid of permanent cross division opponents. Complete bullshite.
In fact get rid of divisions.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29685 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:57 pm to
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quote:
this would actually work and there is a precedent, as ANY team that schedules a game AT Hawaii is allowed to schedule a 13th game per NCAA rules


Just to be clear.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29685 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 10:01 pm to
that's sweet trips for Tide fans

and I retract my quasi troll based on your explanation on the Duke game

Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 6:10 am to
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play the worst OOC team you can find. Otherwise, you're giving teams in other conferences a built in advantage


I understand but if it's a P5 opponent they're gonna want a return game and what would be their reason for wanting to play us?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 6:13 am to
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It needs to be 9 with rotating opponents from the other teams by all teams.
We need to go back to 10-team conferences.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:48 am to
i think we should stay at 8 , but make all schedule 2 P5 OOC games per year. Which some of the East teams already do most years

2019
UGA- ND, GT
UF- UM, FSU
USC- UNC, CU
UT- BYU??? not sure if this counts
Mizz- WVU
UK- UoL
VU- Purdue

UA- Duke
Ark-
UA- Oregon
LSU- UTx
OM- Cal
MSU- KSU
TAMU- CU





Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:57 am to
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Otherwise, you're giving teams in other conferences a built in advantage.


No you aren't. The PAC, B1G, and BIG12 already play 9 conference games. The only conferences left with the 'advantage' are the SEC and ACC. 9 conference games put everyone on a level playing field. Why are so many SEC fans scared of a 9 game conference schedule?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:58 am to
IF the 2 OOC games becomes a thing we're gonna see a lot more neutral site games...it's the easiest way around the home and home logistics.

I'm probably in the minority but I think they've been great for CFB
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7294 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 6:21 pm to
I disagree on neutral sites. Home/Home is the better way.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:34 pm to
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Home/Home is the better way


It's not an either/or option and don't know why it's so difficult to figore out.Neutral site games haven given us matchup we NEVER would have gotten in the past.The logistics,finances and scheduling of P5 home amd homes make it almost impossible to get these matchups in a timely manner if at all.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7294 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 7:10 am to
Most teams schedule H/H with other teams. It's a big draw for their fans to get tix to said matchups.

With a neutral site, you're forcing more people to spend $ just there - not counting the actual game costs.

I would love to go see what makes the other team's stadium exciting for them.
This post was edited on 5/4/19 at 7:12 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 8:05 am to
Most teams schedule H/H with other teams. It's a big draw for their fans to get tix to said matchups.

God almighty,that's not the point.

Once again neutral site games AREN'T REPLACING HOME AND HOMES.They're creating games that otherwise wouldn't exist and IF you're requiring a P5 OOC game it's more likely going to take the place of what was G5 or FCS permanent home game.Which means you're taking that revenue away from school.

Better to have a half revenue game than a 0 revenue game.
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