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re: Rumor has it that the NCAA is considering a 9 game conference rule...

Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:11 pm to
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I'm kind of indifferent to the whole thing, but if you're going to do 2 P5 OOC games why not just do 1 and a 9th conference game? That's kind of 6 in one hand half dozen in the other


no, it's not

it puts my school (UGA), Florida, FSU and Clemson at a disadvantage

we either NEVER get to see quality OOC games in season, have to drop a traditional rivalry game or have to be at a competitive disadvantage by scheduling stronger than the rest of our conferences

Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:16 pm to
I’m ok with that if Notre Dameis no longer eligible because they play zero conference games.

But we all know the NCAA would make an exception to the Pedo Brigade.
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:21 pm to
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Yes...you REALLY they that'd give stronger consideration to a Pac 12 champion over a SEC champion"?

I should have been more clear, so my apologies

the rumor I saw in the other thread basically said that SEC officials may be concerned that our 8 game conference schedule may put us at a disadvantage insofar as getting 2 teams in the playoff, especially if the playoffs go to 8 teams

even now, if you have 5 onference champions with identical records, we may be the odd man out in a year we don't have a "marquee" program as champion

if Bama, LSU, Florida or UGA is champ, no issue (also aTm to a lesser extent)

anyone else may be left out, even Tennessee

Posted by labamafan
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:23 pm to
Alabama didn’t schedule Duke. The kick off classic schedules the teams. Alabama nor Duke have any effect in that game.
Posted by BoerneAg
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:24 pm to
Great idea!
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:32 pm to
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Alabama didn’t schedule Duke. The kick off classic schedules the teams. Alabama nor Duke have any effect in that game.
fair enough, just messing with y'all a little


if I really wanted to troll, I can do better than that

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:44 pm to
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Alabama nor Duke have any effect in that game.


That is factually wrong.
Each team can refuse the game.
Auburn did that about 10 years ago.

The kickoff classic doesn't want/need to scramble at the last minute to fix scheduling. So they listen very carefully to input from each team.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:15 pm to
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maybe not,but they great influence over the playoff selection committee, so this idea is not entirely impossible

in fact, I could EASILY see the committee announcing that they will give preference to conference champs that have at least 9 conference games

IF that actually happens, the SEC (or rather, individual schools) can circumvent that by scheduling 2 P5 OOC games


They have no influence over the playoff committee.

Repeat after me: The NCAA is not involved with the college football playoffs.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:17 pm to
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That is factually wrong.
Each team can refuse the game.
Auburn did that about 10 years ago.

The kickoff classic doesn't want/need to scramble at the last minute to fix scheduling. So they listen very carefully to input from each team.


Who are they going to get to replace the game with though? I somehow doubt they were sitting around picking Duke to start with, and it seems more like a got stuck with Duke deal.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:22 pm to
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It takes a real dumbass to think it's a good idea.





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So what are you saying, if the NCAA had a 9 game requirement for the playoffs, no one would ever win another national championship?


You beat me to it. Who's the real dumbass again?

Bama… it's kind of like college only with stupid people
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 2:23 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:32 pm to
The NCAA would be cutting off its own nose to spite its face by doing this and they know it.

Here's where ALL the trouble is coming from ... Bama.

Bama can make the playoffs without even making the Conference Championship game. At the same time they can do it without playing a strong OOC opponent.

That's what this is all about, plain and simple.

Here’s the hypocrisy of that where Clemson and other current contenders are concerned.

Clemson playing a nine game ACC regular season conference schedule is not the same as playing a nine game SEC schedule. Bama’s schedule, any SEC team’s schedule, is going to be inherently tougher than Clemson’s EVEN IF Clemson played a nine game ACC schedule that included Notre Dame. At least until SC gets back on track and challenges Clemson again, which is coming soon enough.

Only the B1G can, and should, make a similar argument to the SEC's.

The NCAA will never get the vote to push a 9 game rule through.

This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 8:17 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:45 pm to
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Who are they going to get to replace the game with though? I somehow doubt they were sitting around picking Duke to start with, and it seems more like a got stuck with Duke deal.



Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing with me.

Bama absolutely has a direct line to the kickoff classic and absolutely was involved in picking the team.

I'm not saying Bama handpicked Duke. But I'm saying that Bama was as involved in picking the opponent as the classic was.

Like i said, auburn bailed on the game a decade ago. The last thing the classic wants is to lose bama.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:02 pm to
When did the NCAA become involved with the playoffs and criteria for making them?

They have nothing to do with it.
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:40 pm to
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Repeat after me: The NCAA is not involved with the college football playoffs.

maybe not, but to claim that they have "no influence" is ridiculous
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:55 pm to
Any conference game parity requirement would be disadvantageous to the SEC. If it's 8 with 2 power 5 OOC games you get the UGA ND game because it's worth scheduling ND.

If the SEC had to play 9 in conference, I'd say schedule a Colorado and a Kansas every year and keep it pushing.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:39 pm to
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Colorado and a Kansas every year and keep it pushing.


What makes you think they'd want to play us? Why would they?

You REALLY want a home and home with Kansas?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:41 pm to
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maybe not,


There's no maybe about it.

quote:

no influence" is ridiculous


They don't and you've yet to make any type of case to back up your claim.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 6:26 am to
I was wondering the same thing....

The NCAA only givens eligibility for FBS.

Playoff off requirements and scheduling is completely controlled by the Presidents of the FBS Schools and their commissioners.

The only only thing the NCAA also has some responsibility for is the divisional format for conferences., meaning allowing B12 to have a conf Champ game without divisions
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:30 am to
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No team that plays a nine game conference schedule has ever won a National Championship. EVER. It takes a real dumbass to think it's a good idea.

Nick Saban thinks it's a good idea...he's been advocating for 9 SEC conference games for quite a while now...
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4458 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:48 am to
9 conference games is fine for sucky conferences, and it may not be a big deal for the top 2 or 3 SEC teams.

However, for State in the SEC West, we had the 11th toughest schedule last season and we don't need it any tougher. A 9th conference game would not be as big a problem as when State was perennially struggling to get a 6th win, but it could still cost us a bowl level.
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