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re: Rumor has it that the NCAA is considering a 9 game conference rule...
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:47 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:47 am to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:BINGO!
1. The NCAA has no authority to do this, as the College Football Association kicked them out in the 80's.
2. The NCAA is not going to make the two conferences responsible for the last four national champions and 12 of the last 13 national champions ineligible. If the ACC and SEC both tell the NCAA to frick off, they'll back off.
Going even further: The two conferences that would be affected by this are responsible for:
12 of the last 13 Football National Champions
12 of the last 20 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament Champions
6 of the last 11 College World Series Champions
The NCAA can't mandate a damn thing relative to the CFP, they have no say-so. And they sure can't enforce rules or regulations on the only two conferences that have ruled the national championship landscape for over a decade.
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:55 am to Ssubba
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The fans have spoken, play better games.
The only scheduling that Saban and the AD controls is the OOC.
It is funny when Bama fans try to justify their OOC scheduling during the season but bitch and moan incessantly during the offseason.
The reality is that half of the conference is below average. 15% of the conference is god awful every year. Having Bama play Vandy, Kentucky, and Arkansas more frequently is not adding to the GameDay experience anymore than Arkansas State.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:01 am to Evolved Simian
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No team that plays a nine game conference schedule has ever won a National Championship. EVER
And those conference that went to a 9 game conference schedule and proudly announced they are no longer playing FCS teams are starting to have to go back on that.
Every other year you lose a home game with that set up. You are probably playing a P5 opponent (unless you get Michiganed like Arkansas did) who are going to insist on neutral site or home and away. Which means you have to have the remaining two games on your schedule at your house.
The problem with that is G5 teams are starting to hold out for 2 for 1 deals. We come to your place twice but you come to our place once. If you don't give them that home game then they'll hold out for big bucks to come to your place to play... for a game that your fans probably aren't dying to see.
You can get a local FCS team cheap and they'll be happy to come to your stadium. Its why the Big 10 quietly flushed their vaunted "no FCS teams" policy a couple of years ago. Granted, if I was the Big 10, I'd do anything in my power to avoid FCS teams. They've been pantsed by FCS teams, including one miserable year where they lost 3 games to FCS teams.
The bottom line is if you are going to a 9 game conference schedule (which the Big 12 has to since they don't have enough teams for divisions) you better be pretty darn flexible when it comes to scheduling the other 3 games. If you have a permanent OOC opponent like a Clemson or an FSU then you are screwed.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:06 am to dcbl
Source of this rumor?
OP?
OP?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:11 am to Che Boludo
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I may be missing something in the point you are trying to make. But, your statement seems counterintuitive.
I'm not sure how forcing another Conf Game vs a team with a pulse in place of an FCS or non-P5 would hurt tkt sales or television revenue
Right now with the 8 conference game schedule, the SEC provides television content for 113 games (56 conference games, 56 out of conference games, and the SEC championship game).
If you switch to a 9 conference game schedule, then you have 63 conference games and 42 out of conference games. You still have the SECCG. Overnight, a 9 conference game schedule loses 7 games of content (down to 106).
Right now with an 8 conference game schedule, teams are guaranteed 56 conference home games per season (season ticket revenue for the conference). There are another 56 games available for the athletic department to schedule at home if they choose. That is a top end potential 112 home games.
Switching to a 9 conference game slate, you have 63 conference home games for season ticket holders (every other year, a team would get the extra home game). However the AD only has 42 additional games to work into the OOC home schedule. That is a top end 105 home games for season ticket holders. 7 games per year of revenue for local hotels, restaurants, venders, etc.. that are lost overnight.
Let's define a cupcake. The easiest definition of a cup cake is a team that does not require a return visit. For every cupcake that you want to eliminate, you lose a home game on your season ticket package. The SEC loses a game that they can include on the telvision package.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:25 am to dcbl
The NCAA has nothing to do with the playoff
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:34 am to StopRobot
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The NCAA has nothing to do with the playoff
Should be the end of the discussion. NCAA isn't involved at all, so the OP is pure BS. The CFP isn't going to order the SEC to do anything. Could the committee downgrade SEC teams in the future for not playing 9? Theoretically, but it really comes down to how many good teams you play, and that's not a problem for SEC teams.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:39 am to twk
I think the OP needs to source his rumors or just man up and create a thread saying something like "What if 9 Conferences Games Are Required?" and move on....
Anyway, until Semifinal games are more competitive nothing changes. The schools that have 9 conference games are getting their asses handed to them in the Semis. I would recommend they drop the 9 game model and go to an 8 game model like the SEC and ACC and schedule some strong non-conference games. If everyone was on an 8 game conference model more opportunities would occur to have really good non-conference games.
Anyway, until Semifinal games are more competitive nothing changes. The schools that have 9 conference games are getting their asses handed to them in the Semis. I would recommend they drop the 9 game model and go to an 8 game model like the SEC and ACC and schedule some strong non-conference games. If everyone was on an 8 game conference model more opportunities would occur to have really good non-conference games.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:39 am to Evolved Simian
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No team that plays a nine game conference schedule has ever won a National Championship. EVER.
Alabama played 9 SEC teams and won the title.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:44 am to dcbl
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here is what we do, we force the NCAA to accept a caveat that ANY team in a conference that has only 8 conference games can be eligible for playoff consideration if they have 2 P5 OOC games scheduled that year
I'm kind of indifferent to the whole thing, but if you're going to do 2 P5 OOC games why not just do 1 and a 9th conference game? That's kind of 6 in one hand half dozen in the other. I only say that because 3/5 power conferences already do that so it would be less work to move the other 2 towards it than the other way around.
That didn't keep OSU from having a chance to win a title last year, dropping a poop stain at Iowa did (although I think most will agree they should have gotten in over ND).
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:50 am to RoIITide
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Alabama played 9 SEC teams and won the title.
That's the nuts and bolts of it.
We have a 9th game right now and it trumps all of the other conferences who have instituted the change to their regular seasons.
The ccg is the most important cross division game. Forcing Bama to play vandy more frequently doesn't change anything important.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:25 am to dcbl
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how about this, the B1G, Pac 12 & Big 12 certainly have influence and clout with the committee
Okay?
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do you disagree with that
Yes...you REALLY they that'd give stronger consideration to a Pac 12 champion over a SEC champion"?
They pay $500 million a year for CFB playoff TV rights...you think for 1 second they'd try to strong arm the conference that's gonna get the most eyeballs watching the CFB playoffs? C'mon
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:42 am to meansonny
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The reality is that half of the conference is below average. 15% of the conference is god awful every year. Having Bama play Vandy, Kentucky, and Arkansas more frequently is not adding to the GameDay experience anymore than Arkansas State.
Most will disagree with this.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:17 am to dcbl
Link? Oh wait that’s right this is just BS
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:38 am to agswin
quote:already answered, saw it here on SRant, newest "Aub to East" thread, last post on page 5
Source of this rumor?
OP?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:47 am to Ssubba
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Most will disagree with this
You played 3 teams this year from the conference with a combined 3 conference wins among them.
Do you understand how unbelievably bad the bottom of the conference is every year?
You have to stop laughing at then to really comprehend their depths of despair. It also should frustrate you how they hurt SOS and don't help it.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:56 am to Cheese Grits
Thought LSU was anti c-d games?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:03 pm to twk
quote:gosh, you sure seem triggered by this thread
Should be the end of the discussion. NCAA isn't involved at all, so the OP is pure BS
I was pretty clear even in the thread title that this is a rumor
also a few folks have chimed in and, correctly, pointed out that this has more to do with what the committee is leaning towards given stronger consideration for AND the conferences ability to place 2 teams in the playoff, especially if (when) the playoff expands to 8 teams
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:05 pm to CU_Tigers4life
quote:I have now done this 3 times
I think the OP needs to source his rumors or just man up and create a thread saying something like "What if 9 Conferences Games Are Required?" and move on....
oh wait, I see that you are a Clemson fan, so it makes sense that reading comprehension is not your thing
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:08 pm to RT1941
9 Conference Games
1 Power 5 Game
1 Group of 5 Game
1 Cupcake (basically to help out other small State institutions)
1 Power 5 Game
1 Group of 5 Game
1 Cupcake (basically to help out other small State institutions)
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