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Rumor has it that the NCAA is considering a 9 game conference rule...
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:31 pm
...as a requirement for playoff seeding consideration in football
I have a simple solution that would likely work
1st, consider that RIGHT NOW, SEC games are the biggest TV draw and generate the most advertising revenues (yes, there are certain games like Notre Dame vs USC, the Red River Rivalry and OSU vs Mich that buck this trend, but by and large, the SEC draws more eyeballs)
so, we have a great deal of negotiating power...
here is what we do, we force the NCAA to accept a caveat that ANY team in a conference that has only 8 conference games can be eligible for playoff consideration if they have 2 P5 OOC games scheduled that year
we can count on the ACC to back this play, and that would be more than enough to get the NCAA to agree to this
finding willing opponents would be pretty easy since the ACC only has 8 conference games as well
this would also allow mid tier and weaker teams that are more concerned with 6 wins and a bowl game to stick with only 1 P5 OOC game
problem solved (assuming that there is a problem & that the rumor is true)
I have a simple solution that would likely work
1st, consider that RIGHT NOW, SEC games are the biggest TV draw and generate the most advertising revenues (yes, there are certain games like Notre Dame vs USC, the Red River Rivalry and OSU vs Mich that buck this trend, but by and large, the SEC draws more eyeballs)
so, we have a great deal of negotiating power...
here is what we do, we force the NCAA to accept a caveat that ANY team in a conference that has only 8 conference games can be eligible for playoff consideration if they have 2 P5 OOC games scheduled that year
we can count on the ACC to back this play, and that would be more than enough to get the NCAA to agree to this
finding willing opponents would be pretty easy since the ACC only has 8 conference games as well
this would also allow mid tier and weaker teams that are more concerned with 6 wins and a bowl game to stick with only 1 P5 OOC game
problem solved (assuming that there is a problem & that the rumor is true)
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:37 pm to dcbl
The only part of this I don't like is that smaller D1-II, D2 & D3 wouldn't survive. They need all the money they can get from the larger schools. This puts more money at the higher level - which is cool - but still stand on my point.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:43 pm to dcbl
I can't see the NCAA going this route.
The more conference games they force, the fewer ticket sales and televised games available for revenue.
It absolutely flies opposite in the face of making money. And this is the NCAA that we are talking about.
The more conference games they force, the fewer ticket sales and televised games available for revenue.
It absolutely flies opposite in the face of making money. And this is the NCAA that we are talking about.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:47 pm to meansonny
No team that plays a nine game conference schedule has ever won a National Championship. EVER.
It takes a real dumbass to think it's a good idea.
It takes a real dumbass to think it's a good idea.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:48 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:this may well be true; but IF this rumored rule is actually a possibility, then that consideration is meaningless, as schools will make scheduling decisions that serve their best interest
The only part of this I don't like is that smaller D1-II, D2 & D3 wouldn't survive. They need all the money they can get from the larger schools. This puts more money at the higher level - which is cool - but still stand on my point.
however, don't fret, as I also have a solution to your problem!
we can allow for teams to schedule a 13th game! the 13th game would be set aside as an "exhibition" type game and would only be available/allowed for games against lower division schools
this would actually work and there is a precedent, as ANY team that schedules Hawaii is allowed to schedule a 13th game per NCAA rules
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 12:27 am
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:52 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:I am.not advocating for this rumored rule, just throwing out an idea that would allow the SEC to circumvent it
It takes a real dumbass to think it's a good idea.
think about teams like Illinois, Oregon State and Duke (yes, that is a not so subtle dig on Alabama for scheduling the Blue Devils in Atlanta as their required P5 opponent)
Posted on 4/30/19 at 11:56 pm to dcbl
quote:
this may well be true; but IF this rumored rule is actually a possibility, then that consideration is meaningless, as schools will make scheduling decisions that serve their best interest
however, don't forget, as I also have a solution to your problem!
we can allow for teams to schedule a 13th game! the 13th game would be set aside as an "exhubition" type game and would only be available/allowed for games against lower division schools
this would actually work and there is a precedent, as ANY team that schedules Hawaii is allowed to schedule a 13th game per NCAA rules
True and if you add what the Georgia fan said of
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I can't see the NCAA going this route.
The more conference games they force, the fewer ticket sales and televised games available for revenue.
It absolutely flies opposite in the face of making money. And this is the NCAA that we are talking about.
It would mean the NCAA is putting all their eggs in the basket to make this basically a D league. If they make the CFP and D1 the primary focus, which it is, lesser divisions will go away. This would also lead to definitely paying players, which I'm personally against.
We also must remember though that the NCAA is a governing body and has nothing to do with education. I could see this eventually happening. It all comes down to money and we will see if they don't start enforcing their rules with this court stuff that's going on.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:02 am to Evolved Simian
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No team that plays a nine game conference schedule has ever won a National Championship. EVER.
It takes a real dumbass to think it's a good idea.
So what are you saying, if the NCAA had a 9 game requirement for the playoffs, no one would ever win another national championship?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:09 am to momentoftruth87
quote:agree on D league, disagree on leading to paying players (I think we should do that anyway, but I don't wanna go down that rabbit hole ITT)
It would mean the NCAA is putting all their eggs in the basket to make this basically a D league. If they make the CFP and D1 the primary focus, which it is, lesser divisions will go away. This would also lead to definitely paying players, which I'm personally against.
on the "D league" argument; there is a lot of pushback from the B1G, Pac 12 and Big 12 to go down this road, as many folks believe those conferences have been unfairly excluded
the Pac and B1G certainly have substantial clout, so this concept is not out of the realm of possibility
and I vehemently disagree that it would be a money loser, if anything it would generate more cash, as it would force schools to schedule a larger number of marketable games
I mean, as much as I love UGA, I can't tell you that I watch every cream puff game we play, and certainly not the whole game
but I'd be a lot more likely to tune in for the whole 3 or 4 hours if we were playing somebody interesting
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 12:10 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:19 am to dcbl
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I mean, as much as I love UGA, I can't tell you that I watch every cream puff game we play, and certainly not the whole game
but I'd be a lot more likely to tune in for the whole 3 or 4 hours if we were playing somebody interesting
I feel the same way and that's why I feel like players will get paid. It will eliminate competition at lesser levels and generate more money, thus leading to paying players.
I pointed out the other day in the pay players thing about how the NFL doesn't need a D league because they basically benefit off of the NCAA. Start removing competition and that will reduce how many go on to the next level.
I'm a traditionalist when it comes to sports that's why I want more competition, even if I don't watch it, and for it to stay "amateur" - as much as it can.
I also think players getting in trouble in college should be one and done. If they fk up the opportunity, the next man up mentality should be used. Too much money in this game to keep letting shite heads play. The only part about that, is that the top performance comes from the shitheads usually. There are tons that do things right, so don't take that out of context, but I'm sure you can understand what my point is here.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:19 am to dcbl
As the NCAA did not create said playoff, I am curious how they intend to implement this.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:20 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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So what are you saying,
Is that it's stupid to shackle yourself the way some other conferences have.
I don't see the NCAA mandating something like this.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:23 am to Evolved Simian
Good insight, Nick
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:32 am to Evolved Simian
oops
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 12:33 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 12:33 am to skrayper
quote:yeah, I don't know that they will or if they can, but someone mentioned this in the newest "Auburn to the East" thread as a reason why the SEC might be reluctant to adapt a 3 permanent rivals and rotate 5 type system
As the NCAA did not create said playoff, I am curious how they intend to implement this.
that's pretty much why I am bringing this up...
Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:09 am to momentoftruth87
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The only part of this I don't like is that smaller D1-II, D2 & D3 wouldn't survive.
I feel back for the players who would lose an opportunity to play. But be honest; would you miss D1-II, D2 & D3 Football?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 3:07 am to dcbl
Don't know why, but you completely pulled this shite out of your arse.
The NCAA is not involved in the playoffs at all. It's literally impossible for this rumor to be true.
The NCAA is not involved in the playoffs at all. It's literally impossible for this rumor to be true.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:25 am to dcbl
The worst thing about a 9 game schedule is that every other year all teams would have 5 road conference games vs 4 home conference games. Otherwise, it's a good idea to have more conference games. Who really wants to watch a P5 program play an FCS school.
The current SEC scheduling system sucks. It needs to be burned down and replaced with something else. I'd like to see more frequent home and home games between programs like LSU or Bama vs UGa; Florida vs Auburn or aTm.
FWIW, I don't think the NCAA gets a cut of conference TV revenue. They get a cut of the CFP TV revenue.
The current SEC scheduling system sucks. It needs to be burned down and replaced with something else. I'd like to see more frequent home and home games between programs like LSU or Bama vs UGa; Florida vs Auburn or aTm.
FWIW, I don't think the NCAA gets a cut of conference TV revenue. They get a cut of the CFP TV revenue.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 4:58 am to dcbl
If they want everybody @ 9 games, then everybody should have the same # of teams in each conference.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 5:16 am to dcbl
You have a link to this "rumor" or is just an idea you conjured up and to then turned it into a "rumor" ?
Repeat after me:The NCAA never has or never will have anything to do with the FBS playoffs.
Repeat after me:The NCAA never has or never will have anything to do with the FBS playoffs.
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