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re: "Return to murderball" was laughed at quite a bit this year

Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:07 am to
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:07 am to
The second half went a lot like the 2021 national championshp game. One team could run the ball successfully and the other couldn't. The more phyiscal team won the game, which is the way it should go, like the 2021 title game.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:17 am to
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Bama thought they had an o-line that could move anyone and one of these QBs would be able to make an offense pay if they put too many in the box to stop it.


And down the stretch one Proctor figured it out and Roberts was inserted we absolutely changed into a very good power rush team that was elite on short yardage when you knew we were gonna run. We were not very explosive (mainly because neither of our main, older backs are very explosive), which limited our YPA numbers.

Non-Sack Rushing
Tennessee : 39 carries, 167 yards (4.3 YPA)
LSU : 44 rushes, 300 yards (6.8)
Kentucky : 38 rushes, 156 yards (4.1)
Auburn : 42 rushes, 200 yards (4.8)
Georgia : 37 rushes, 154 yards (4.2)


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I do think their Oline has improved, but I watched murderball up close and personal in the SECCG in 2012. This ain't it.



2012 was one of the greatest offensive lines in SEC history. Nobody in their right mind expected to get that sort of dominance (so like, half the fanbase ).
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 8:19 am
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:20 am to
I will say this. Do it again, but take out unscripted rushing plays by Milroe. Only fair way to do it if you are gonna take his sack yardage away. Having the defense on their heels to defend the pass and calling what he did against the LSU defense murder ball is disingenuous. As I said, you know this.

If anything, what the coaching staff did is impressive because they changed from what they had been doing to something else. It didn't work and morphed it into something completely different based on taking a flawed player and using what he does best to make the offense effective. Of course, it's the D that really held this thing together.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 8:23 am
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:21 am to
Thought this was going to be about brandon miller.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:24 am to
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I will say this. Do it again, but take out unscripted rushing plays by Milroe. Only fair way to do it if you are gonna take his sack yardage away. Having the defense on their heels to defend the pass and calling what he did against the LSU defense murder ball is disingenuous. As I said, you know this.


I don't disagree - having a QB who can run is certainly a different animal.

Designed Runs (per PFF)
Tennessee : 37 for 155 (4.2)
LSU : 37 for 207 (5.6)
Kentucky : 35 for 126 (3.6)
Auburn : 28 for 106 (3.8)
Georgia : 31 for 150 (4.8)
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:30 am to
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The big key, will be how it will play in the playoffs and next season. Will Milroe be happy in his new role as mobile QB, or will he revert to his insistence he is a pocket passer? Somebody has gotten in his head and convinced him that he needs to package himself as a pocket passer to catch the eye of the NFL. With next year (likely) being his last year he might be more insistent on staying in the pocket. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.


That would be a weird take, considering he's already moving up in the same mold as Jalen Hurts (cannon for an arm, legs that will punish teams that fail to contain). I get the need to showcase the passing ability, but one would think he's shown enough of an arm that teams would at least be willing to acknowledge he's got the tools that cannot be "taught" - athletic ability - and then can learn more as he comes up, so maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick.

He'd have to come back and do amazing next year to really be viewed as a first round draft choice.
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
1905 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:32 am to
They got beat up at the line of scrimmage

But that wasn’t possible becauseUGa fans think “Bama’s S&C stunts their player development” lol
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
9050 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:40 am to
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I don't disagree - having a QB who can run is certainly a different animal.

Designed Runs (per PFF)
Tennessee : 37 for 155 (4.2)
LSU : 37 for 207 (5.6)
Kentucky : 35 for 126 (3.6)
Auburn : 28 for 106 (3.8)
Georgia : 31 for 150 (4.8)


And the only one that stands out here is Georgia from what I can see. And that fits with what I saw Saturday. For about halfway through the first to the end of the half and the last half of the fourth, we couldn't stop you. And you had a lot of success, especially in the second quarter running up the middle with someone other than Milroe.

The Oline played well. Not trying to tell you they didn't. But even on a handoff to the RB, the defense still has to be a little slower to react to it. But they definitely were moving our interior around in the second quarter. That last drive to kill the game was mostly Milroe. With the exception of Georgia scoring on it's first drive, from what had to happen for Alabama to win the game, you couldn't have drawn it up more perfectly.
Posted by EGO3x
Member since Oct 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:45 am to
Going back to this style of offense with a runner like Milroe at QB and that gigantic O line was a great personnel decision for Saban. Took a while but they steadily improved every game.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
9050 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:55 am to
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They got beat up at the line of scrimmage


You played better along the LOS than we did.

I mean, if you look at the stats, hard to say that either Oline was killing it along the LOS.

Close games you are usually gonna lose if you lose the turnover battle and you don't get points when they are available. We did both of those. Team that plays the best in the bigger moments usually wins in a close game. Bama did Saturday night.

Kirby does not coach aggressively against his old boss and it's cost him several times, including Saturday. I don't know if they felt they couldn't block you on passing downs with Mims out, but it sure looked different once he hit the bench. But he's the only tackle we have talent wise that stacks up with your ends.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22371 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:10 am to
They were saving that Jalen run… hadnt been a designed qb run for a while… set it up nicely.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7158 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:13 am to
the offense this year hasn't resembled murderball imo
Posted by BCBAMA
Southeast Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
840 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:21 am to
One could throw a curveball and say some universities need to find a term for allowing sexual improprieties, including their head coach. For those of less knowledge, that means improper behavior.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
8449 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:27 am to
Murder ball is your argument for being laughed at all year.

You barely had a total of 300 yards and GA outgained you the for the whole game.

If not for a missed FG and a fumble on the 11 yard line, you lose

Take your gift from Bobo and be happy because it likely won't happen again
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:28 am to
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Dawg4Life47


So much shite talk for weeks. Tough scene.

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Take your gift from Bobo and be happy because it likely won't happen again


For sure - Alabama beating Georgia is a very rare event.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 9:29 am
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9295 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:30 am to


Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20252 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:36 am to
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I think the game against Auburn falls in the Larceny category myself


Actually for Auburn it falls in the “prison love” category.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5418 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:40 am to
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pretty shocking how much push we were getting against the UGA defensive line.

Maybe for you, but not for us. The DL has been the weak spot on the team all season. It’s serviceable, nowhere near the behemoths of the last two years.
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
4777 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:43 am to
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At the end, Bama imposed their will on UGA. Game was close, but y’all owned the LOS most of it.



This is the way fan should respond, and it's funny most of the Georgia fans are like this... even with our back and forth banter. It is refreshing.

How unlike the fans of some programs.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2756 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 9:46 am to
You ran for 114 years. One of the most underwhelming SEC championships I’ve witnessed in years. At least in some of the blowouts that were not close you got to watch a great team flex their superiority.

Instead we got to watch a pretty good but not great Georgia team lose to a pretty good but not even close to great Bama team. Mostly due to Georgia’s retarded offensive play calling. Neither defense is great but neither team’s offense was Great either. After watching both these programs have some monster teams lately, these two teams suck compared to some of the teams we’ve seen the last few years.
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