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re: REPORT: Jalen Hurts to Transfer if he doesn't win QB1 Job

Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:35 am to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:35 am to
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So I guess Tua shouldn’t get any credit for making the correct read, looking off the safety based on that read, and then doing an exceptional job of throwing it as soon as he looked back to #6.
He does get credit for that. Absolutely. There are players that would not have made the play for sure

I simply contend more players than not would have made that throw/play, and that the main catalyst for the play was bad defense on uga more so than a good play by Tua
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:37 am to
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So I guess Tua shouldn’t get any credit for making the correct read,


sure he gets credit, he knew exactly where he was throwing the ball before it was even snapped. But the whole "he looked off the safety" aspect is very overblown. Our safety was woefully out of position and apparently didn't care that he had deep help. The CB on the play was getting burned all game adn didn't even jam the WR because he was *supposed* to have sanders deep, but he didn't.

Tua made a fantastic throw, nobody is taking anythign away from him, but the lack of coverage is 100% on sanders and not on tua.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:38 am to
And all we're saying is Jalen wouldn't have made that play, just like he didn't make them in the first half, which is why we were in the position to need a miracle comeback by a freshman.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:41 am to
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And all we're saying is Jalen wouldn't have made that play,
I disagree. That is exactly the type of throw jalen could make.

That was a designed play with only one throw in mind, and the dbs failed and made it wide open

Jalen wouldnt have made the throws though to even get you into position to be in OT though.....
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 10:42 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:42 am to
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I also saw Tua running for his life. They let him make quick throws to compensate for it and he threw three times into coverage because of the pressure
Tua's stats for ONE HALF

Tua Tagovailoa 14/24 166yd. 6.9per 3TD 1int
According to you in another thread, those are all-american type stats whe Stedham had them!
Now which is it?
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:42 am to
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Tua made a fantastic throw, nobody is taking anythign away from him, but the lack of coverage is 100% on sanders and not on tua.




Dude I have watched that play hundreds of times. Your safety completely bit. Tua was looking to his right the entire time (safety's left).....the safety was following his eyes and drifted over just enough. Smith juked the other guy and took off like shot with the other guy trying to catch him.

That play is one of Tua's specialties and you guys got out coached and out played on that last play. It wasn't a bust it was a designed play and it worked to perfection.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 10:43 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:44 am to
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Dude I have watched that play hundreds of times. Your safety completely bit. Tua was looking to his right the entire time (safety's left).....the safety was following his eyes and drifted over just enough. Smith joked the other guy and took off like shot with the other guy trying to catch him.
The fact a safety is reading a qbs eyes and leaving an assisnment on 2nd and 26 is full retard man.
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That play is one of Tua's specialties and you guys got out coached and out played on that last play. It wasn't a bust it was a designed play and it worked to perfection.


Tuas specialties? He knew where he was going the entire time, and any qb would look the opposite direction when only having one read on the play/they know where they are throwing no matter what
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:44 am to
i was just responding in general not really commenting on yalls argument, just clicked on your name.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:49 am to
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Your safety completely bit.


Our safety, which was responsible for that whole back left of the field, was lined up to the RIGHT of tua at the snap. As in, tua took the snap at the left hash and Sanders began the play in between the hashes. That's already piss poor positioning even before the snap. At the snap sanders essentially backs up, he never "bites" on anything.


I knwo bama fans have this complex where nothing short of perfection can ever be said, but it's ok to admit that our safety was not where he was supposed to be on the play. And it's not because of masterful eye work, he was simply out of position.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20760 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:49 am to
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I disagree. That is exactly the type of throw jalen could make.



I’ve watched Jalen play for two seasons now. I’d be shocked if he made that throw.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:51 am to
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Tua's stats for ONE HALF Tua Tagovailoa 14/24 166yd. 6.9per 3TD 1int According to you in another thread, those are all-american type stats whe Stedham had them! Now which is it?


Stats are for fools (no wonder you throw them out a lot). Tua looked good, but the conversation was about the OL. You just can not read or comprehend very well. You are not trying to hijack the conversation to be about Tua ?
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 10:53 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94932 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:53 am to
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I’ve watched Jalen play for two seasons now.
I feel like you must of been drunk for the year with Kiffin

The kiffin special was dink pass after dink pass, then Hurts hits a wide open guy deep after yall sucked the defense in from pounding them with the run and short passes
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32817 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:56 am to
A more athletic safety may have been able to make up that difference. A better press coverage cb May have been able to slow the wr down enough to help the less athletic safety.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21674 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:57 am to
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I feel like you must of been drunk for the year with Kiffin

The kiffin special was dink pass after dink pass, then Hurts hits a wide open guy deep after yall sucked the defense in from pounding them with the run and short passes


I promise Bama fans who have watched Hurts for two years don't need help breaking down his abilities. You probably have a couple of passes stuck in your head from the one or two games you watched that are skewing your perception of what he can do.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20760 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:58 am to
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I feel like you must of been drunk for the year with Kiffin

The kiffin special was dink pass after dink pass, then Hurts hits a wide open guy deep after yall sucked the defense in from pounding them with the run and short passes



I guess you were drunk in the first half of the UGA game when Jalen missed a wide open TD on the opening drive that most QBs would be able to complete. That was the norm, not the exception.

Our struggles on offense over the last two seasons were due to Jalen’s inability to throw downfield.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94932 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:59 am to
I agree. I am just saying the game winning throw is not what impressed me about Tua and made me think Bama now has a good qb

This throw, and others like it, is what showed me

Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20760 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:00 am to
I agree with you on that one. That was a very impressive play and he threw his man open. That’s something Jalen rarely does.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12120 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:01 am to
I won't play if I don't get my way... He does realize he isn't at Missouri right?
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 11:05 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30597 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:02 am to
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quote:
Tua's stats for ONE HALF Tua Tagovailoa 14/24 166yd. 6.9per 3TD 1int According to you in another thread, those are all-american type stats whe Stedham had them! Now which is it?


Stats are for fools (no wonder you throw them out a lot). Tua looked good, but the conversation was about the OL. You just can not read or comprehend very well. You are not trying to hijack the conversation to be about Tua ?

Again, READ THE THREAD TITLE
I heard that you can tell alot about a person when they're called out...well, you've been called out and you deflected. That smells of chickenshit to me.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24461 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:04 am to
That drive was by far his best and all of the other scoring drives featured the run. However you could argue that the 1st td drive opened up the running game
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 11:05 am
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