re: Ranking the SEC Quarterbacks for 2018

And I don't want to hear anything about YPC as a justification as to why Scarlett is only "okay." There are so many different things outside a RB's control that go into YPC at this level

Some PFF nuggets last year before Scarlett got suspended:

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Florida RB Jordan Scarlett served as a living nightmare for opposing defenses last season, as he forced the most missed tackles (50) among Power 5 running backs with less than 200 carries.

At 5-foot-11, 213 pounds, Scarlett stayed up through first contact on 40.8 percent of his rushes in 2016, which ranked No. 3 in the 2018 draft class.

Scarlett averaged 3.75 yards after contact per attempt last season, which ranked No. 2 among draft-eligible SEC running backs with at least 150 carries.

Boasting an elusive rating of 104.5 in 2016, Scarlett ranked No. 2 behind LSU’s Derrius Guice among that same group of running backs.

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Scarlett is the most physically talented back on the team and if healthy and not in trouble will be much better than "okay." He still has Sunday potential

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Scarlett has never shown any big time ability. He's just an average back.

And so what on the stats above, under 5 yards a carry is under 5 yards a carry, nobody was having to make excuses for Malik Davis doing well above that.

Guice faced loaded boxes on over 70% of his carries and had a nagging injury the whole season and averaged a good bit over 5 yards per carry with 2 true freshmen blocking up front for him.

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That's a really dumb statement.

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4.97 yards per carry, sorry, that's nothing to write home about

And let's not forget he's trying to come back after missing an entire season while also not even being allowed to practice or be with the team

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4.97 yards per carry, sorry, that's nothing to write home about

And let's not forget he's trying to come back after missing an entire season while also not even being allowed to practice or be with the team

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You're seriously going to just dismiss him because of YPC without taking into account any context?

Advanced stats show he's one of the toughest backs to bring down in the country. He's not a burner but he'll move the chains more consistently than just about anyone.

And yeah it remains to be seen whether or not he comes back strong (although early practice reports on him are overwhelmingly positive) but to state that he's never shown top ability because his YPC isn't as good as some others is absolute tomfoolery

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Advanced stats show he's one of the toughest backs to bring down in the country.

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And this doesnt make him a great running back, because he still averaged under 5 yards per carry. You can cherry pick a lot of advanced stats, but in the end, he has still yet to show any high level play, and, once again, is coming off not being with the team for a full season.

Yes, certain situations are more ideal than others, but agian, great backs find ways to produce. Again, Guice faced loaded boxed on over 70% of his carries and had lingering injuries all season and managed well over 5 yards per carry. Being elusive is only a part of things, not the whole picture.

You could have a high yards after contact because you have awful vision just as much you have a bad OL. Goes both ways without seeing the whole picture with cherry picking some advanced stats.

I wonder if offensive lines have anything to do with YPC? Basing how good a RB is on YPC is amateur hour. Guice is a great back but so is Scarlett. You should know with how many linebackers were riding his back to the end zone in that 2016 game. Malik Davis might be better though.

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And this doesnt make him a great running back, because he still averaged under 5 yards per carry. You can cherry pick a lot of advanced stats, but in the end, he has still yet to show any high level play, and, once again, is coming off not being with the team for a full season.

Yes, certain situations are more ideal than others, but agian, great backs find ways to produce. Again, Guice faced loaded boxed on over 70% of his carries and had lingering injuries all season and managed well over 5 yards per carry. Being elusive is only a part of things, not the whole picture.

You could have a high yards after contact because you have awful vision just as much you have a bad OL. Goes both ways without seeing the whole picture with cherry picking some advanced stats.

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I wasn't arguing that he was a great back in 2016. But the idea that he's never shown top ability is ridiculous. I'm talking about ceiling and you're acting like he's definitely going to be just okay forever.

He's got an NFL body with NFL strength and elusiveness. His vision needs work but our QB situation has been a disaster (even worse than LSU's) and our OLine didn't do him any favors that year. The advanced stats show potential.

He has workhorse potential and if you can't see that then don't quit your day job because scouting isn't in your future.

Oh fun. Can you rank backup quarterbacks for us next?

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And why you think Scarlett's situation in 2016 was any better? We had Luke del Rio and Austin Appleby at QB for Christ's sake.

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We had Appleby's backup

Just showing even when Guice's odds were completely stacked against him (70+% on carries facing loaded box, 2 true freshmen OLinemen), dealing with rough nagging injuries throughout the season and a complete scheme change from man to man to zone blocking he still managed over 5 yards per carry. Nobody said Guice had a great year last year, that's for sure, because we all saw what he was capable of when healthy (a guy who averaged closer to 7-8 yards per carry). Guice still could gut out some performances though with odds severely stacked against him.