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re: PFF College - Top 50 College Players 2019
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:42 am to RB10
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:42 am to RB10
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Football outsiders has a good power and efficiency rating system, but it's just for teams in college. It'd be nice to see something like that for the players, but that would take a ton of man power.
Yea - I think I remember Connelly discussed trying to do it but it ended up just being way too much.
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:04 am to Rayburn8
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There is no way there are 50 players better than Erroll Thompson.
Who?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:07 am to SummerOfGeorge
No Tommy Touchdown? List is shite.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:10 am to WG_Dawg
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I don't believe there are 38 players better than andrew thomas.
Do you think there are 36 better than Derrick Brown?
Dude will be a top 10 pick, maybe top 5
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
The #1 safety is the #25 overall player? Weird
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:51 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Not only that, but they don't even seem to be using their grades as much of a criteria for this list
their grades have left me scratching my head more than a few times.
Lawrence, for example, was great down the stretch last year, but he struggled early on
It's just another popularity contest
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:56 am to SummerOfGeorge
There are 8 CFB QBs better than Jake Fromm?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:57 am to Rayburn8
Cam Dantzler should be on the list
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:57 am to SummerOfGeorge
So Tua has the overall higher grade, but is #2 to Tl. Makes TOTAL sense.
FWIW, #50, is graded higher than both of them...
Tells me this is just a popularity contest.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:58 am to Lonnie Utah
That's a terrible picture of Tua.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:58 am to SummerOfGeorge
Delpit at 25 
Carter at 34
Carter at 34
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:02 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Tells me this is just a popularity contest.
Well, yeah.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:02 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Tells me this is just a popularity contest.
This is their 2019 projected Top 50 list, they used their grades last year as a reference, not a as the only measuring stick for the projection. Obviously Justin Herbert looks way out of place in Top 12 with a sub 80 grade. They think he will explode this season, like he did 2 years ago.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
lol how is JR Reed on the list and not Swift? Reed has been a nice surprise at UGA, but #35 seems a bit high imo.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:10 pm to chillmonster
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If A Thomas isn't in the top 10 this list is shite. If Swift isn't in the top 50 this list is shite. If Fromm isn't in the top 20 this list is shite.
List is shite.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:15 pm to NCDawg52
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It is a great metric in the NFL where stats basically impart the same meaning regardless of opponent due to the fact that the overall talent delta between the best and worst team is minimal.
In college, in my opinion, the numbers are devalued tremendously due to the fact that talent and quality of opponent can vary so widely that mere aggregated stats can’t fully illuminate an individuals talent, value, or projections at the next level.
If they're using more or less the same methodology from pro to college, this makes a ton of sense, and absolutely explains what I mentioned above about discounting relative strength of opponent.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:27 pm to JuiceTerry
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Lawrence, for example, was great down the stretch last year, but he struggled early on
What makes you say this?
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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25. Grant Delpit, S, LSU (#1 S) 23. Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU (#4 CB)
DBU
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Putting both Lawrence ahead of Tua and Ross ahead of Jeudy makes it look like they literally only watched one college football game last year.
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