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re: Pete Thamel: Scholarship limits for baseball likely eliminated
Posted on 5/24/24 at 7:24 pm to MillerLiteTime
Posted on 5/24/24 at 7:24 pm to MillerLiteTime
It's about fricking time
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 7:40 pm to Jrv2damac
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What kind of dumb state doesn’t have a lottery
I looked it up out of curiosity.
Utah, Nevada, Hawaii, Alaska and Alabama
Really Bama ??
The only state I can understand being on this list is Utah. The Mormons are never going to let a lottery bill get a vote.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 7:49 pm to MillerLiteTime
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This wont affect football and basketball much (other than no more walk ons
Why are we glossing over this? This is a huge deal. People talk shite about all the mega retarded changes over the last 5 years and people say "oh who cares you're over reacting" but this is going to affect thousands of lives and not for the better, not to mention further deteriorate the guise of "amateur" athletics. College sports without walk-ons doesn't make any sense
Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:34 pm to Socratics
quote:Hell, Alabama’s legislators won’t even let Alabamians vote for a damn lottery.
I looked it up out of curiosity.
Utah, Nevada, Hawaii, Alaska and Alabama
Really Bama ??
The only state I can understand being on this list is Utah. The Mormons are never going to let a lottery bill get a vote.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:46 pm to MillerLiteTime
How will this affect the Title 9 balancing act? Will women/tranny sports have to be equally “funded”?
Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:56 pm to Lynxrufus2012
schools are not going to formally fund 37 full schollies for baseball as they would have to fund 26 more schollies for female sports.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:57 pm to RT1941
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Hell, Alabama’s legislators won’t even let Alabamians vote for a damn lottery.
People assume it is because Alabama is too conservative but that has zero to do with it. The real reason is the state legislature is bought by Indian, “bingo”, and Mississippi gaming interests who don’t want competition.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:59 pm to Jrv2damac
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What kind of dumb state doesn’t have a lottery
One that understands math and statistics.
Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:00 pm to captdalton
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One that understands math and statistics.
I don’t see Alabama soaring in those rankings either, sorry
Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:02 pm to MillerLiteTime
Somewhere, Ron Polk is getting a boner.
Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:09 pm to MillerLiteTime
I believe title 9 will still apply though.
What that means is that schools will have to either have to have sports scholarships in the same percentage as their student population with regards to men and women receiving them, or they have to offer scholarships for all roster spots on all sports.
Stanford will do the latter because they have ridiculous money. Right now they offer max NCAA allowed scholarships for all sports. They can afford to offer max scholarships for all roster spots for all sports as well.
But most schools don't want to do that. They choose the former option. That means if schools wanted to increase scholarships for baseball, they'd have to also offer more womens scholarships or they'd need to cut other mens sports scholarships.
If history teaches us anything, it means less popular mens sports would get dropped by schools to fully provide baseball scholarships, or some schools might cut baseball in order to fund other sports fully.
What that means is that schools will have to either have to have sports scholarships in the same percentage as their student population with regards to men and women receiving them, or they have to offer scholarships for all roster spots on all sports.
Stanford will do the latter because they have ridiculous money. Right now they offer max NCAA allowed scholarships for all sports. They can afford to offer max scholarships for all roster spots for all sports as well.
But most schools don't want to do that. They choose the former option. That means if schools wanted to increase scholarships for baseball, they'd have to also offer more womens scholarships or they'd need to cut other mens sports scholarships.
If history teaches us anything, it means less popular mens sports would get dropped by schools to fully provide baseball scholarships, or some schools might cut baseball in order to fund other sports fully.
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:30 pm to MillerLiteTime
Is there any NIL money for baseball?
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:01 am to Clark14
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We may already be seeing the impact of some of vandy’s advantages going away. Pretty soon they may bring absolutely nothing to the conference in any sport. Oh well, that’s one way to quiet the whistling clown down...
The power of a Vanderbilt degree still trumps the whole conference so I think baseball will be just fine as long as they’re still winning.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:13 am to DawginSC
The one thing being overlooked in this is many schools won't be able to keep up with all the new schollies going around.
I am guessing a lot of schools will be dropping a lot of sports when scholarship numbers go up. Particularly the small schools. Will be interesting to see the numbers in the end, but there is the possibility the net number of scholarships for baseball for college actually goes down due to fewer schools participating.
I am guessing a lot of schools will be dropping a lot of sports when scholarship numbers go up. Particularly the small schools. Will be interesting to see the numbers in the end, but there is the possibility the net number of scholarships for baseball for college actually goes down due to fewer schools participating.
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 1:15 am
Posted on 5/28/24 at 2:12 am to DawginSC
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But most schools don't want to do that. They choose the former option. That means if schools wanted to increase scholarships for baseball, they'd have to also offer more womens scholarships or they'd need to cut other mens sports scholarships.
If history teaches us anything, it means less popular mens sports would get dropped by schools to fully provide baseball scholarships, or some schools might cut baseball in order to fund other sports fully.
Yep, it is not like baseball was the only sport that had ridiculous scholarship limitations. They all did besides football and basketball.
This was always significant to me because they implemented those draconian scholarship cuts for minor sports happened the exact year I came out of high school.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 2:17 am to MillerLiteTime
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The non-lottery states like Alabama may no longer be at a disadvantage if UA and AU choose to fully fund scholarships for all baseball players up to the new roster limit.
The University is secretly glad theyve never had to do this. They wont even waive out of state tuition in many cases for players who are on partial or zero scholarship
Posted on 5/28/24 at 4:46 am to lsufball19
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Scholarship limitations are due to a federal law, not some arbitrary NCAA bylaw. Why would anyone listen to anything Pat McAfee has to say about anything, especially his layperson legal opinion of a lawsuit
Everything in your post is incorrect. Title IX requires an equitable number of male/female scholarships, but doesn’t set roster or scholarship caps on each sport. Also this is Pete Thamel saying this, not McAfee.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 4:55 am to DawginSC
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I believe title 9 will still apply though.
It definitely will. Which is why this doesn’t automatically mean every school is going to fully fund scholarships for every sport up to the roster caps. Thamel specifically named Mississippi State as an example of a school who cares a lot about baseball and would now have the option of fully funding baseball scholarships, while other schools may choose not to.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:30 am to MillerLiteTime
Look for football rosters to shrink, football will probable settle on 65 players or so. More money per player.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:33 am to BigDickRick16
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Aww, you mean Vandy isn’t gonna have the advantage anymore on scholarships? What a shame!
I’ve always enjoyed this excuse for Vandy being good
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