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OU received invite in 2010 but did not think A&M was a good partner
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:05 pm
OU SEC invite 2010
Not sure if this has been discussed but I find it interesting that the SEC wanted OU in 2010 but the fact that it would have meant coming with A&M turned them off.
Imagine if the SEC got OU instead of mizzou in 2010. You talk about a real nail to the head for Texas.
Not sure if this has been discussed but I find it interesting that the SEC wanted OU in 2010 but the fact that it would have meant coming with A&M turned them off.
Imagine if the SEC got OU instead of mizzou in 2010. You talk about a real nail to the head for Texas.
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:06 pm to turnpiketiger
Cool man
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:08 pm to turnpiketiger
Most don’t have a clue what goes on behind the scenes why Boren kept pounding the table we had options. Thank the faggies for messing it all up !
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:10 pm to turnpiketiger
What you said:
Reality:
OU is Texas's lapdog, and Oklahoma State's body guard.
None of this is news to anyone who followed the realignment back then.
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but the fact that it would have meant coming with A&M turned them off.
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Boren says because the SEC offer didn't include Oklahoma State and Texas, he didn't consider it a good option.
OU is Texas's lapdog, and Oklahoma State's body guard.
None of this is news to anyone who followed the realignment back then.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:38 pm to turnpiketiger
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Boren says because the SEC offer didn't include Oklahoma State and Texas, he didn't consider it a good option.
OU has always been led by pussies who were afraid to tell their Daddy to take a hike.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:41 pm to turnpiketiger
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(from June 2010)
The president of the University of Oklahoma says his school and Texas A&M both received invitations to join the Southeastern Conference during the last round of conference realignment.
Oklahoma ended up remaining in the Big 12. University president David Boren said Wednesday that the Sooners had offers from both the SEC and the Pac-10.
Boren says the Pac-10 offer was for five Big 12 schools Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech to join as a group. He says the SEC extended offers only to Oklahoma and Texas A&M, both of which opted to stay in a slimmed-down Big 12 after Colorado left for the Pac-10 and Nebraska left for the Big Ten.
Boren says because the SEC offer didn't include Oklahoma State and Texas, he didn't consider it a good option.
So this cat was only interested if the offer included four (!) schools?
Also crazy to think what the current football landscape would look like if those five teams had bolted for the Pac way back then.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:45 pm to turnpiketiger
NOt sure if you were around when this was happening. The reality is that the biggest surprise in that round was that Texas and OU didn't end up going somewhere. It seemed very likely they were heading to the Pac 10 or Big 10 through much of the process.
Nebraska went to the Big 10 (Maryland and Rutgers hadn't joined yet), Colorado went to the Pac 12 and everyone thought the Big 12 was collapsing.
I'm guessing a more realistic viewpoint was that OU probably felt going with Texas to the Pac 10 would be better than going with A&M to the SEC. When that didn't happen, I would guess OU might have been a little put out.
Nebraska went to the Big 10 (Maryland and Rutgers hadn't joined yet), Colorado went to the Pac 12 and everyone thought the Big 12 was collapsing.
I'm guessing a more realistic viewpoint was that OU probably felt going with Texas to the Pac 10 would be better than going with A&M to the SEC. When that didn't happen, I would guess OU might have been a little put out.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:46 pm to DawginSC
OU was scared that Texas would cancel their annual game over it… for good reason
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:52 pm to turnpiketiger
I would habe liked to habe ok st, OU, texas horns and tx aggies in the sec all this time since 2011. That would have been nice. Okie st. is very competitive in their sports compared to Mizzou.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:52 pm to turnpiketiger
All of you that hate Missouri being in the SEC can directly thank good ol’ David Boren from Oklahoma. He’s the guy that held a “we won’t be a wallflower” press conference live while our leadership was desperately holding a closed door meeting trying to unite the Big 12. It pissed our normally-milquetoast leadership off so much that they said “frick it” and ultimately engaged with the SEC.
David Boren put Missouri in the SEC.
David Boren put Missouri in the SEC.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:53 pm to DawginSC
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NOt sure if you were around when this was happening. The reality is that the biggest surprise in that round was that Texas and OU didn't end up going somewhere. It seemed very likely they were heading to the Pac 10 or Big 10 through much of the process.
Nebraska went to the Big 10 (Maryland and Rutgers hadn't joined yet), Colorado went to the Pac 12 and everyone thought the Big 12 was collapsing.
I'm guessing a more realistic viewpoint was that OU probably felt going with Texas to the Pac 10 would be better than going with A&M to the SEC. When that didn't happen, I would guess OU might have been a little put out.
Multiple conferences were making bids at that point. The Pac-10 bid was scuttled per most articles at the time because
a) The albatross of the Longhorn Network wouldn't transfer over and
b) The TV folks at ESPN and Fox, Big 12 rightsholders, decided to up the ante to keep the Big 12 together.
Anyone that thinks realignment is for anything other than money is a complete idiot.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:54 pm to Hugh McElroy
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afraid to tell their Daddy to take a hike.
Much easier when you have nothing to lose, like A&M.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:03 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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Much easier when you have nothing to lose, like A&M.
I am honestly surprised that Oklahoma wasn't more self-interested at that juncture.
Texas was quickly rolling back into its normal state of sustained irrelevance at that point. The Texas OU game and state legislature pressure to package a deal with Okie State were not insurmountable barriers.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:04 pm to turnpiketiger
Gotta love how turnpike starts a thread he knows nothing about. Makes himself look like a fool. Then disappears.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:11 pm to DawginSC
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Nebraska went to the Big 10 (Maryland and Rutgers hadn't joined yet), Colorado went to the Pac 12 and everyone thought the Big 12 was collapsing.
Everybody thought Texas, OU, A&M, and Ok State to the PAC was done. Texas had negotiated the deal. It was ever reported by Texas sources as a done deal.
But A&M said no. We intended to go with the SEC offer. Texas didn’t want the SEC, but didn’t want A&M in the SEC without them. So they offered what seemed like a good deal at the time for A&M to stay in the Big 12. We agreed, but the SEC itch was started. When the LHN started with the plans to broadcast high school games, A&M called bullshite, had had enough, and called the SEC back.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:12 pm to Windy City
All I care about is for OU and UT to create some nice "welcome" videos to share with the rest of the SEC before we officially start competing.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 3:12 pm to Windy City
We literally played in the title game earlier that year. OU played in it a year earlier. And 2010’s SEC is nothing like 2023’s.
OU’s whole deal is being the Joker to Texas’s Batman. If they aren’t playing Texas in Dallas, they might as well be Arkansas. Going to the SEC without that game would’ve been a losing formula.
OU’s whole deal is being the Joker to Texas’s Batman. If they aren’t playing Texas in Dallas, they might as well be Arkansas. Going to the SEC without that game would’ve been a losing formula.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:03 pm to turnpiketiger
OU’s POS President at the time, David Boren prevented the move. Glad he is gone.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:11 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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2010’s SEC is nothing like 2023’s.
The SEC won 9 titles from 2010 until now. What’s your point here?
Posted on 5/9/23 at 4:13 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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We literally played in the title game earlier that year. OU played in it a year earlier. And 2010’s SEC is nothing like 2023’s.
OU’s whole deal is being the Joker to Texas’s Batman. If they aren’t playing Texas in Dallas, they might as well be Arkansas. Going to the SEC without that game would’ve been a losing formula.
Yes, but you were also 5-7 in 2010. That was the last game I attended in DKR. It was freezing that night and my Longhorn wife and her Longhorn buddies vanished to the Texas Exes center in the second quarter. I sat watching Cyrus Grey running up and down the field in that incredibly unimaginative Mike Sherman scheme.
And a better comparison is probably Oklahoma being Dale Doback and Texas being Derek Doback.
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