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Not listening to the "Silverfield took over a a bad situation argument".

Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:34 pm
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
8310 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:34 pm
We were in most games we played last year, and we could move the ball. Go watch how KJ looked in his start last year compared to how he looks now.

We spent way more on NIL than Utah and we looked incompetent, because we are incompetent.

Someone is going to have to pony up some serious cash to buy him out or we are screwed for another couple years. I guess we have some cheesy catch phrases though. All in.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
28851 posts
Posted on 9/16/26 at 11:50 pm to
They spent more money but the return got the same scraps from P4/G5/FCS teams.

It's not the coaching.

It's not the talent.

It's a decaying reputation of a once solid program that is looked at by recruits from high school and the portal as Vandy but without the academics.

It's a place where bad players end a career while getting paid more.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
67744 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 1:18 am to
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It's not the coaching.
Yes it is. The offense was good when Briles and Petrino were coaching it. The defense was good when Odom was coaching it.

We get talent. We don't coach it.
This post was edited on 9/17/26 at 1:19 am
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
70100 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 6:45 am to
It is the worst situation in the SEC, if I were a coach I'd rather go to Vandy or Kentucky or State than Arkansas.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43987 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 6:54 am to
Only because of Yurachek.

Much better coaches wanted the job, coaches who would actually created buzz and excitement day one of the hire for the fanbase.

Coaches who would actually improve the record from Sam/Petrino's 2-10 0-8 sec this year.

Instead Yurachek hired Silverfield and we can only hope for 2 wins this season.
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
9699 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:13 am to
Petrino had the gift. He could take average teams and make them function.

Look what he did when he had above average talent, we were close to the top.

What we are seeing now is NEVER going to work. We don't do anything well.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
70100 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:44 am to
JCP started it with the worst hiring in history of maybe all of football with Morris, that is where the program entered a point of no return from the depths of hell for many cycles to come. Yurachek has continued the run although Pittman wasn't necessarily an awful hire just should have been let go before last year. I'm not sure if it's true other coaches wanted the job or not, most just use Arkansas as leverage for a raise/extension or better deal without us actually being a serious contender.

Very similar to basketball when we hired Stan Heath because he was black and started a string of god awful hires.
This post was edited on 9/17/26 at 7:51 am
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19664 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:53 am to
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It's not the coaching.


You did see where Utah said they knew every play if we were running vs passing right?

And then Silverado addressing it saying they caught that on film against UNA….
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
40719 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:57 am to
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JCP started it with the worst hiring in history of maybe all of football with Morris



She was just a puppet of the BoT at that time. They signed off on the hire.

A product of firing both the Coach and AD.

Just as shitty of a hire as Chad Silverfield
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
70100 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:02 am to
She was still the "leader" of the coaching search, but it doesn't really matter who they still hired Chad Morris and the program was never going to recover for several cycles after that. Hell even at the time some said Arkansas may never recover from the damage caused by that hire like it was a modern self imposed death penalty and it almost seems like that. Maybe in another decade.
This post was edited on 9/17/26 at 8:04 am
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18448 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:41 am to
Still should have hired Mike Gundy.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
5269 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:45 am to
And RS took the stance that it's a "win now" season. No rebuild.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
21156 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:58 am to
It will take money to get us out of this hole.

Need a big D swinging AD hire that can pry money from peoples hands.

Somebody that can sell donating 135 mil in year one to fire the current staff, hire a top notch new one, with 50 mil allotted for roster construction.

Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
5269 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 9:01 am to
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It will take money to get us out of this hole.


And no idea where the $ will come from. Donor fatigue I think has set in and I don't blame them one bit. Regular fans aren't giving, especially in this state of the economy.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18943 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 9:02 am to
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I'm not sure if it's true other coaches wanted the job or not, most just use Arkansas as leverage for a raise/extension or better deal without us actually being a serious contender. Very similar to basketball when we hired Stan Heath because he was black and started a string of god awful hires.
this is such a bullshite take. You think we were any worse from a perception standpoint than Mississippi state after they fired Zach arnett? Who they fired after 1 fricking year mind you because they just made a decision we don’t want to suck anymore and went out and got Jeff lebby. You think we have a worse perception in coaching circles than Kentucky? A school that will always always put basketball first? You think we were in a worse position than last Oklahoma state last year? Who has way less money and had an even worse season than we did?These are rhetorical in case you don’t know, the answer to both is frick no! Of course Ryan fricking silverfield was not the only swinging dick in America who would take the job. Maybe James Franklin or Matt Campbell wouldn’t, maybe golesh and sumrall wouldn’t, but there were more capable hires out there who would’ve taken the job.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
21156 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 9:26 am to
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And no idea where the $ will come from. Donor fatigue I think has set in and I don't blame them one bit. Regular fans aren't giving, especially in this state of the economy.


Its why you need an AD that can sell.

Hunter couldn’t sell a brand new private jet to a billionaire at a 30% discount.

Somebody is going to have to sit down with Jerry, and The Waltons, and Johnelle, and every CEO in Arkansas and sell.

Lets make this pay off for you publicly. Did Tyson Foods benefit when it came out that John was the reason we got Cal and the best rosters around? How can we do that for your company.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
70100 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 9:28 am to
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You think we were any worse from a perception standpoint than Mississippi state after they fired Zach arnett? Who they fired after 1 fricking year mind you because they just made a decision we don’t want to suck anymore and went out and got Jeff lebby. You think we have a worse perception in coaching circles than Kentucky? A school that will always always put basketball first? You think we were in a worse position than last Oklahoma state last year? Who has way less money and had an even worse season than we did?These are rhetorical in case you don’t know, the answer to both is frick no! Of course Ryan fricking silverfield was not the only swinging dick in America who would take the job. Maybe James Franklin or Matt Campbell wouldn’t, maybe golesh and sumrall wouldn’t, but there were more capable hires out there who would’ve taken the job.


Yes to all. Any coach would take Oklahoma State job over us for the same contract, no brainer.

Arkansas' NIL this year for football is $500K above Kentucky. We put basketball first as do our donors so idk what you're even saying there. Outdated take not relevant in 2026.
This post was edited on 9/17/26 at 9:33 am
Posted by ElDawgHawg
L.A. (lower Arkansas)
Member since Nov 2012
3833 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 9:37 am to
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Yes to all. Any coach would take Oklahoma State job over us for the same contract, no brainer.

Arkansas' NIL this year for football is $500K above Kentucky. We put basketball first as do our donors so idk what you're even saying there. Outdated take not relevant in 2026.


Okie Light just beat Oregon with 40 something UNT transfers. Yeah they got a few from other places but a lot of the key cogs came from there.
I have no idea what their NIL budget is and yeah they lost their first game to Tulsa but clearly they are trending up... and they have a QB....

So I don't buy the "it's a better job" angle... but I think they made a better hire.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
70100 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 9:51 am to
They also lost to 1 win Tulsa which cancels out that win. And yeah their top players followed their coach from UNT to his new school, same thing for Cignetti when his top players followed him from JMU so you didn't have a lot of new faces learning a new system. Several Indiana starters that won a natty were from JMU.

The main thing for them was Mestemaker sticking with him despite tons of big offers elsewhere so they had the #2 transfer QB who is a projected first round pick.

Much easier to have success at OSU in the Big 12 than Arkansas in the SEC is largely why. Golesh when he used us for leverage also mentioned much better fan support at Auburn as a reason in addition to the money.
This post was edited on 9/17/26 at 9:57 am
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18943 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 9:53 am to
Oklahoma state didn’t offer the same contract though. They have less money and less NIL. Jesus are you obtuse or just stupid? And the fan base of Arkansas will always care more about football than basketball overall, no matter what cope you spew about preferring basketball just because the football team sucks
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