ClassicCityAlum

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What's this data for the football team?

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Maybe the punter … maybe.

Of course anecdotal, but as a UNC alum (JD), I don’t know anyone who wants to join a largely Midwestern conference. Outside of NC, UNC alumni largely work in SEC states, work with SEC alumni, and find far more scholastic and cultural camaraderie with SEC grads.

Most of them would prefer that the ACC remain intact, but would choose the SEC over any other conference.

UNC and UVA should be in the same conference as their geographic (e.g., Tennessee, South Carolina), academic (e.g., Vandy, UF, UGA, Texas), and cultural peers. I don’t think they want to be in a random conference with Rutgers, Ohio State, and Oregon.

Thank you for the insight (sincerely). I’ll read the link you provided. It sounds like you have a strong background / grasp on this phenomenon.

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I mean you might be right if solely looking at grad school stats. However its statistically harder to get into tulane undergrad than any SEC school not named Vandy

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Tulane is notorious for punishing students for not applying Early Decision. Their ED rate is quite high, which subsequently suppresses their general “regular” acceptance rate (while wildly enhancing their yield rate), in turn presenting the facade of a highly selective university. Wake Forest plays this same game.

U.S. News finally recognized the artifice, and now both Tulane and Wake are ranked in the 50s and 60s, well below schools like UF, Texas, and UGA.

They are fine schools, but mostly backup colleges for kids from the Northeast, and their reputations reflect that reality. I’d group them with schools like Miami and SMU — fine schools, inferior to many better reputed state universities, and justifiable only if one’s parents (or a scholarship) recognizes they’re paying $70k / year for a country club that does not belong to the scholastic elite.

To take your selectivity logic to the uppermost principle, Tulane would then be considered “more competitive” than UVA, UNC, and Michigan, which we obviously know is not the case (only Tulane grads would profess otherwise).

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Total school rankings in the SEC according to US News 1. Vandy 2a. Florida 2b. Texas 4. Georgia 5. Texas A&M

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Based on the undergraduate program? Is U.S. News comparing an undergraduate anthropology course at UF compared to UGA and UT-Austin?


UGA and Texas have business and law programs that well outrank UF, based on actual, objective metrics. Texas’ Med school also outranks UF (UGA only acquired its only Med school a few years ago).

I’m not sure how you’re staking claim to UF superiority when you are lesser ranked in the most remunerative fields by the very same publication that you reference as the authority.

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Making a 31-34 on the ACT now is like making a 24-28 20 years ago.

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Respectfully, do you have any objective evidence to support this statement, other than subjective opinions, emotional pleas, or your personal intuition?

You also need to explain (1) the much lower acceptance rates that have accompanied rising scores at Southern universities and (2) the astronomical rise in rankings (presumably, if your thesis was true, then Southern colleges would be ranked similar to their positions 20 years ago, as every college would receive these falsely inflated standardized test scores).

Also, if the average ACT at UGA is “really” only a 26-27 (rather than a 32-33) does that mean the average Mississippi State student is only “really” scoring a 17-18 on the ACT, based on your readjusted metric accounting for “score inflation”?

Thank you in advance for your insight.

NCAA minimum, I’d imagine…

Class of 2030 stats

UGA Incoming Class of 2030:
-- ACT range: 31-34
-- SAT range: 1360 - 1500
-- GPA range: 4.13 - 4.40
-- Acceptance rate: ~29%

It's safe to say I would be firmly rejected from my alma mater if I was applying in 2026. I'm sure others can sympathize with their respective alma maters - Southern schools have become incredibly competitive.

UGA has an average incoming ACT of 32 and GPA of 4.0. UGA has top 25 ranked law, business, ag, poli sci, journalism, vet, etc. schools.

I’m a UGA grad, former military officer, and currently work in M&A, making ten times your salary. All of my friends work in either big Finance, big Law, or medicine.

Vanderbilt, UT, UGA, and UF are all top schools. A&M and UofSC are strong, as well.

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So yes Florida, Texas, & Vanderbilt carry the water for the SEC in tier 1 Tier 2 is Georgia, Missouri, & Texas A&M

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Georgia is not tier 2. Georgia has top 25 business and law schools, and practically the same ACT / SAT / GPA scores of UNC, UF, and UT.

UGA Med, recently founded, will also be top 25 in the coming decade. So, no, UF is not superior when UGA outranks it in the “big three” programs…

The SEC (and the South in general) owned the B10 for more than two decades.

In a temporary mismanagement of NIL (we’re in a “pay to play” period that will end when the NCAA grows a spine to enforce its own rules), the B10 is winning championships based on transfer rosters (see Indiana in football and Michigan in basketball, as examples).

The Midwest is a frozen shite hole and can’t produce any good athletes so they must look to superior regions to obtain older transfer players (many of whom were bench riding as younger players at Southern schools).

I’ll also remind you that Florida won the bball natty last year, and (before Michigan filmed practices to cheat their way to a natty) the B10 hadn’t won a football championship, outside of OSU, for decades.


There’s a reason why Michigan - and the rest of the frozen shite hole that is the Midwest - is bleeding population like a gut wound. No one wants to live there. Young, white collar professionals and moneyed retirees want to live in Florida, Texas, the Carolinas, Virginia, Georgia, etc. No one wants to live in places like Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, and the frozen cornbread, landlocked (no, a frozen lake doesn’t compare to the southern Atlantic or Gulf) region that is the Midwestern wasteland.

Now, back to some hillbilly Michigan town or woebegone suburb of Detroit you go. Don’t drink the cancer water.