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Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:54 pm to cardboardboxer
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You either pay to play, or hide behind virtue signaling that your program is too good to keep up.
There's a line in here somewhere and many cross it all the time, imo. When you look at big hires in the past, I'd wager that most didn't work out. It's certainly worth it if the coach works out, but it's a huge gamble.
Having said that, it's mostly booster money, so I don't really care. These comments actually worry me that a little, if they signify that Yurachek won't open the vault for good coaches and assistants. My guess is that it's a message for the boosters, saying he won't make the same mistake Long allegedly made.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:01 pm to cardboardboxer
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And if Arky gets turned down by Venables we will 100% know why.
No, because under that assumption you are pretending that their aren't other reasons for staying at Clemson. I know you are not that naive.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:03 pm to redeye
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My guess is that it's a message for the boosters, saying he won't make the same mistake Long allegedly made.
This is also not shown proper context. One of the biggest issues that the fan base had with Long was the buyout. Not shocking that he brought this up.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:04 pm to 1999
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To me, losing football games is being terminated with cause. The protection sometimes that coaches are provided within their contracts to me is ludicrous.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:07 pm to 1999
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To me, losing football games is being terminated with cause
Boom. He’s exactly right. In what other profession is this not the case?
If I were a CEO of a Fortune 500 Company, getting paid millions, I’d definitely expect to get canned without an exorbitant contract payout if I let the company’s revenue, culture, and reputation slip over the span of a few years.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:13 pm to agrunner
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He's not wrong. Our last AD fricked us.
What do you think your current AD just did?? 75 million guaranteed. Y'all will be raising hades about that in 2-3 years.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:14 pm to Sev09
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If I were a CEO of a Fortune 500 Company, getting paid millions, I’d definitely expect to get canned without an exorbitant contract payout if I let the company’s revenue, culture, and reputation slip over the span of a few years.
But that isn't how it works. Shitty CEOs get golden parachutes all the time.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:27 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Sumlin went 5-7 his 3rd year at Houston.
Yes, but that was super strange. He was on his 4th QB by like the 3rd game of the season due to multiple injuries.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:28 pm to Hugh McElroy
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Locking in a Saban or a Meyer or a Fisher to a guaranteed contract isn't much of a risk
Typical A&M thing to lump in a guy with a sole natty with 2 coaches who have a combined 8.
El oh el if you think Fisher is in the Tier man.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:32 pm to cardboardboxer
The man brought up a legitimate point, worthy of discussion. He's not a Marxist, he just points out that coaches contracts are a hyperbolic curve that have to peak at some point. The peak won't be brought about by collusion or other nefarious means, but the bubble will burst and return to some type of equilibrium. It has to.
There's a lot of stupid in this thread.
There's a lot of stupid in this thread.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:34 pm to BamaHog
I say that big talk's worth doodly-squat. Granny Hawkins
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:35 pm to 1999
He isn't wrong. But good luck getting a coach when everyone else is doing it.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:37 pm to 1999
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“We’ve got to get a handle on coach contracts and the buyouts,”
Isn’t Arkansas about to offer 2.6 mil for a defensive coordinator?
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:38 pm to BamaHog
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There's a lot of stupid in this thread.
Always a lot of drama over the molehills.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:40 pm to BamaHog
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The peak won't be brought about by collusion or other nefarious means, but the bubble will burst and return to some type of equilibrium. It has to.
It won't be ADs like him that bring about that equilibrium though.
It will be college presidents and boards of directors that put the brakes on when the TV money dries up or when a big lawsuit changes who can get paid in the sport.
ADs have no incentive to push back in coaching contracts, as not getting the big fish can be just as bad as overpaying for the big fish.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Big programs will fork out the cash.
I think the bubble is about to burst and teams will be more willing to take a chance on unproven but successful lower tier guys or assistants than hiring big names.
quote:True about LSU. But Jimbo pulled in an unbelievable contract within 12 months, in the same damn conference/division.
LSU wouldn't meet jimbos demands. I'm sure there will be others.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:40 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Isn’t Arkansas about to offer 2.6 mil for a defensive coordinator?
Yep, and only 3.5 for HC
We won't get him and be paying that much anyway though
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:43 pm to RT1941
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But Jimbo pulled in an unbelievable contract within 12 months, in the same damn conference/division.
Some other teams are holding the line however.
This is the start of the jimbo saga and it could turn bad.
Alabama wouldn't offer jimbo a 75 million contract at this time if Saban left.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:47 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:shite Fire!
Isn’t Arkansas about to offer 2.6 mil for a defensive coordinator?
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