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re: New Arkansas AD very critical of coaching buyouts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Both were pathetic but locking jimbo for 10 years is beyond belief.
It's gonna suck so bad having one of the top three coaches in college football for ten whole years!
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:11 pm to agswin
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this cougar high goober is fired because he can't find winning coaches.
Herman?
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:12 pm to Hugh McElroy
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I guess cause he's a pussy.
So mad
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:16 pm to Hugh McElroy
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I guess cause he's a pussy.
They say you are what you eat. I suppose that would make you a dick then.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Both were pathetic but locking jimbo for 10 years is beyond belief.
Meh, that is the market rate for a splash hire. Harbaugh was hired at $7 million at year for seven years in 2014. Mullen's contract is six years at $6 million a year. If you look at the contracts as a percentage of AD revenue we did better than both of those programs.
The end result is the price for a good coach keeps rising, and the number of programs willing to sit on their hands to prove a point are shrinking.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:17 pm to agrunner
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He's not wrong. Our last AD fricked us
What about your new AD?
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:19 pm to Hugh McElroy
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It's gonna suck so bad having one of the top three coaches in college football for ten whole years!
It's going to be fun to revisit this a few years down the road
Sumlin never had a season as bad as FSU just had. Jimbo isn't a top 5 coach
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:21 pm to BrerTiger
BT - Continue to enjoy living in the past while A&M is moving forward.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:24 pm to okietiger
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What about your new AD?
Nope.
Locking in a Saban or a Meyer or a Fisher to a guaranteed contract isn't much of a risk. Locking in a Sumlin or a Gus or a Bert to a guaranteed contract is different. I know why we did it with Sumlin at the time, and I actually don't think it was as dumb of a move as people claim now. But if we had let him walk to USC, people would have been blasting the AD left and right. Besides, Sumlin did improve our program, and the buyout did not, in fact, hamstring us.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's going to be fun to revisit this a few years down the road
No it won't. Either we will be beat down without any life left, or you will want to delete this bookmark when Jimbo is having success. Either way it won't be fun for you.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:25 pm to cardboardboxer
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No it won't. Either we will be beat down without any life left, or you will want to delete this bookmark when Jimbo is having success. Either way it won't be fun for you.
Pretty much this
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:27 pm to 1999
Sexton is going to have him knocked off
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:28 pm to 1999
lol Aggies aren't the poors and making it rain on coaches
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:36 pm to cardboardboxer
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What this goober doesn't understand is coaches like Sumlin, Gus, Harbaugh and Jimbo have all the leverage.
You either pay to play, or hide behind virtue signaling that your program is too good to keep up.
I don't know why this is getting so many downvotes because it's true. Now, A&M's contract with Jimbo is definitely outside the norm, but fully guaranteed buyouts are not outside the norm anymore. If team A, B, C, and D are offering full buyouts and team E isn't, guess where prospective coach isn't going to sign? Even though the AD is right in principle, and I agree that coaching contracts are out of control, the markets dictate otherwise. You can either play along or lose out on coaches you want out of principle.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Sumlin went 5-7 his 3rd year at Houston.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:39 pm to starsandstripes
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The buyout backlash is coming. The agents are going to be the ones that complain the loudest. I don't think the coaches are that hung up on it. It's their agents. They want to get paid even when their client becomes an epic failure.
I've always wondered how the agents get paid. Do they get paid upfront their 3% or do they get paid out of each paycheck? The reason I ask is this. Let's say Jimbo got his big payday last week and decides to fire Sexton tomorrow. Sexton negotiated and got Jimbo that huge contract, so one would surmise he should be entitled to 3% of it, right? But if he's only getting compensated as Jimbo gets paid and if he's no longer Jimbo's agent, then who gets that money? I've just always been curious exactly how agent's compensation is structured
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:40 pm to 1999
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I want to be a leader in this industry in how we write our coaches contracts moving forward so that there’s not 100 percent guaranteed protection for their contracts.”
This seems to be conveniently ignored. He mentions 100% twice in those two statements. He isn't trying to just get rid of any buyouts or protections to the coach.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:51 pm to lsufball19
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I don't know why this is getting so many downvotes because it's true.
Because people don't want to face that reality.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:52 pm to 1999
Mississippi State AD’s pioneering yet another avenue. Mullen didn’t get a buy-out clause because the amount he wanted was ridiculous AND we were already overpaying him. Just because you have the money doesn’t mean you need to give it away. A&M was stupid for doing what they did. They guaranteed Fisher $10 M even if he never ever wins a game. That is just criminal.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:52 pm to Hugh McElroy
Goddamn Aggie gets mad about everything
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